Thread: Roy Beck: Amnesty Won't Pass House Or Senate

April 09, 2009
Exclusive: Roy Beck From NumbersUSA -- Amnesty Won't Pass House Or Senate
At the top of the Drudge Report today is an ominous warning for people who care about the future of this country: NYT: Obama to push Immigration bill,


While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more difficult, President Barack Obama plans to begin addressing America's immigration system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

Obama will frame the new effort -- likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue -- as "policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system," said the official, Cecilia Munoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.

Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May, administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of immigration organizations, to begin discussing possible legislation for as early as this fall.

Some White House officials said immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges that Obama made to Latino groups in last year's campaign.

He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino voters turned out strongly for Obama in the election.


I have absolutely no doubt that Barack Obama would love to push amnesty through; however, my gut instinct is that he's going to turn out to be all talk and no action on this issue.

Why?

Well, I think Obama feels a need to throw a bone to the liberal Hispanic groups that helped get him elected. So, he's bringing this up to give them the impression he's working hard on an issue they care about.

However, yesterday I did a long interview with Roy Beck from NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA is the premier anti-amnesty/anti-open borders group in the country. They have over 900,000 members and they know what's going on in Congress on this issue like few other people. In fact, we had to stop the interview yesterday for 15 minutes because a Congressman (I don't know which one) was calling Roy to chat.

Because of its length (It was about an hour), the full interview isn't transcribed yet. However, we did talk about the prospects of an amnesty bill passing Congress and he thought it was unlikely to pass the House OR the Senate.

Here's some of what Roy told me about this issue: On the Senate:


"I'm not sure McCain will vote for an amnesty this time...he's like Bush. This thing is an emotional thing for him. But ...by the time he got to South Carolina, he was running ads about how he was the enforcement guy and he had erred in trying to resolve the illegal population before the enforcement...He managed to squeak out these victories (in the primaries) because he persuaded enough people he wasn't an amnesty guy. So, he could still support amnesty, but there has gotta be tough, tough, tough enforcement and the indications are that the Democrats...are saying now that they're in such power, they say that a lot of the enforcement stuff in the 2007 amnesty was unfair and mean, and they're not going to have all of that. I also think there's a good chance the Democrats would bring forth an amnesty program with no guest worker program in it. So, I think there are a lot of reasons why McCain can say, 'That's not the kind of amnesty I can support.'

...I think they could pass it if all of us in the non-mainstream media...just stay back and are quiet. But, that's not going to happen. We're going to throw everything we've got into it.

Just look at the Senate. It looks like there's going to be a good chance that the Senate is going to have 59 Democrats. ...There were about 15 Democrats who voted against the amnesty in 2007. I think we ought to get about half of those and maybe more. If you got 8 Democrats to vote against it, that means you'd need 9 Republicans. I don't see it. At most, I see 6 and they might not get but 2 or 3 -- especially if they offend McCain."



On the House:


"I don't think Pelosi thinks she has the votes. ...She goes out and makes statements that get all of us all upset and gets her applause from the Hispanic caucus. But ...there were right around 50 Democrats who co-sponsored the SAVE ACT last year, which was a very, very strong enforcement bill. This amnesty will not have nearly the strength of that. I think one of the reasons that those Democrats signed that bill is that they're from districts whose constituents are pushing them hard on this. So, I think we'd have a good chance to get 60-70 Democrats in the House to vote against that and I don't think we ought to lose more than a half dozen Republicans. If we did that well, then we'd beat it in the House."

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues.html

http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/04/ ... number.php

I have a great deal of Roy Beck on several levels, I pray that he is right and Obama can't push Amnesty through. But even if he doesn't push it through this time around, the American people must still remain ever watchful of this corrupt administration.

we have to be even more vigilant and even more motivated to go for ultimate victory, attrition through enforcement and the END of this infamy and the balkanization of our country. Cot off teh jobs and benefits and they will go home!

My fear is that this plan will be shoved through in a closed session in the dark of the night - kind of like the stimulus plan.

We have two keep up the work and pressure on our state and federal governments.

This is our country, keep going daily with a smile that our numbers are growing and we, the people, are not going to remain in the shadows any longer.

Anchor babies in our government and country will cry the loudest.

Legal or Leave; Self Deport is Best!

--------------------------------------------

And if the Congress and President shove this down our throats we will have to operate for sure.

Where are the pro-Americans in Congress?
--------------------------------------------

I truly do not think some Americans know how to use the internet, yet.

I worry he will pass it in the middle of the night with an Executive Decision.
I will be ballistic!
The people have proved what they want.

We will not stop, he needs to get out of office sooner rather than in 3 3/4's year.
America will go down if people don't stand up.

Originally Posted by ReggieMay

My fear is that this plan will be shoved through in a closed session in the dark of the night - kind of like the stimulus plan.

I absolutely agree with that statement.

They did that stimulus plan without reading or understanding it. I think I read somewhere that $30,000,000.00 went to help protect rodents near San Fransisco. It's like they are on too much coffee and trying to shove through their pet projects without regards for the consequences. You can bet that amnesty for illegal aliens is one.

I wouldn't put anything past them.

We cannot take anything for granted and have to fight even harder, like we're behind -- which in many ways we are.

Don't forget that the Dems have increased their numbers, some Repubs such as McCain, Lugar, Graham, possibly Cornyn support amnesty, George Soros is spending $18 million to push and market amnesty (on top of the multi-millions other amnesty special interests have spent and are spending), most of the MSM supports amnesty, on top of religious, cheap labor business, & well-funded ethnocentric interests, Chamber of Commerce etc.

So we have to continue to counter this massive pro-amnesty, anti-American worker propaganda, and make our voice heard -- the voices of the vast majority of Americans who favor enforcement and oppose amnesty schemes.

Please keep calling etc. and do not let your guard down.

Has President Obama given the Seniors and Social Security folks the "no taxing of SS benifits" if earning combined with SS is under $150,000, yet?

But he is on ready to give "AMNESTY" and to bailout corporate "AMERICA".

Well, I think Obama feels a need to throw a bone to the liberal Hispanic groups that helped get him elected.

I've been thinking the same thing Mr. Beck.

Dixie