Thread: Tancredo: Bush Speech Provides ‘Border’ Meat

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Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 6:14 p.m. EST
Tancredo: Bush Speech Provides ‘Border’ Meat


Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), hungry for immigration reform, listened intently Monday to President Bush’s speech about dealing with border issues. At the end, the Republican congressman was less hungry, but still unsatisfied.

"President Bush gave us some meat, which is good, but he slipped it between two very stale, old pieces of bread – guest worker and amnesty programs,� Tancredo said.

President Bush promised to protect the U.S.-Mexico border, and called for the use of high-tech gadgets – and even an improved border wall – to help battle the problem of illegals streaming into the U.S.

There are an estimated 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States, many of whom came to the United States via Mexico.


Tancredo said, however, that the president’s insistence on a guest worker program – even in the face of tougher border controls – isn’t enough.

"If you tell people who are here illegally that they are not subject to deportation, that is amnesty,� Tancredo said. "That’s the end of it.�

Tancredo hopes the Bush Administration will help craft a much tougher enforcement policy that will keep the majority of illegals out of the country.

"Can you stop every single human being from coming into the country illegally? No,� Tancredo told Fox News Channel. "Can you stop 95 percent of them? Yes – build a better fence, use unmanned aerial vehicles for surveillance, etc.

"There are a number of ways to prevent illegals from crossing our border," Tancredo said. "We just need to get tough.�

I agree with Tom Tancredo. I feel a little better that at least the issue is being addressed, but as he said it has to get a lot tougher than what President Bush said today.

He has to come out and say that entering the U.S. illegally is a federal offense and that it won't be tolerated anymore. He has to come out and say more for any of this to even work.

He should realize that the American people are going to expect to see a lot of action taking place, if they are to believe him.

LegalUsCitizen, I was happy to see that Bush was finally thinking about going back to work after he's sat silent all these weeks.

And I was delighted to see that the illegal immigrants are in his sites.
Given that it can't all be done at one time, I hope he sees what Chertoff saw with his own eyes--groups of illegals slipping across the border--and the he will start something, anything, to put an end to it.

I'm not sure why he says one thing in one speech and another thing in speeches the closer he gets to the border, though. I guess he thinks that we are too poor to have television down here or something.

Amnesty is amnesty no matter what he calls it. And amnesty isn't an option in my book.

JuniusJnr I don't know what it is that keeps him from just doing what he should do. I mean I know some of the reasons, which must be true; for example cheap labor, his friends want that, and his globalization ideas, and this desire he seems to have to at least look as though he is "good friends" with everybody.

But when you have the responsibilities that he has to protect and defend a country, especially a country that is so disliked by some, and so taken advantage of by others, you just can't be some nice guy all the time.

He could be nice, but he could have more and better friends through being someone that other leaders could look to as being an example of a real leader. It is important for him to defend our Americanism. It takes having a little guts to do it. He expects American soldiers to be brave and strong, than it would seem to me that he should be willing to lead the way.

Everyone would like to be "nice and tolerant" all the time, but it is easier for him because he doesn't live in the real America as we do. He doesn't face the difficulties that we face from massive and illegal immigration.

Everyone speaks English to President Bush, he doesn't walk through grocery stores, and school hallways, and the workplace the way we do.
We face things everyday that he has no clue what it is like to face. A really good leader is able to "see" and "understand" what the common people face. He has never been able to truly understand the average American. He understands rich, he understands extreme security, he understand being approached and treated in very respectful ways. Beyond that, the man is clueless.

We can only hope for the best, JuniusJr. We have to continue to give him a hard time to ensure that he understands that we will NOT tolerate his negligence towards this country anymore !!

Bush is still 'jiving and shucking' -same crap sell job. President Bush now can't use the words, 'Border Security' enough---when really he means little to nothing about Border Security. In the end a "temporary guest-worker program/amnesty" will result in a flood of "migrants", decimation of U.S. communities and little if anything will come of real Border security ---using excuses like no funding, telling the Border patrol to stand down or just making ICE or Homeland Security dept totally futile and ineffective. A couple years down the road and enforcement will get scrapped. In the end, NO border security will result and America will be ended and inundated with NO borders just as the CFR 'North American Security' plan calls for.

It is simply 'Black and White'-- you either have mexican "immigrants" coming into the U.S. walking on U.S. soil OR YOU DON'T. It is an issue of existence and CONTROL (limiting immigrant entry). Illegal Aliens are going to meet the Border and be cutoff, shorn off, gnashing their teeth or they are NOT. The best way for a lesson to be clear.


Bush, Business and other advocates want to say- well this, well that (money, sympathy) --- we can do both, still have it both ways, mish-mosh ---end result CHEESE that does nothing. ---Pro-illegal Alien, Pro-mexico NOT Pro America. Just talk Border Security and keep our system of modern day slavery. Hand out "guest-worker" visa cards en masse to to "match willing workers with willing employers" unlimited so that hiring illegal Aliens becomes a mute law and then "guest-workers" can sqaut for 3-6 years and then MAYBE return home. Everbody is simply called "Legal". That'll fix it.

Point: The Kyl/Cornyn bill (S.143 calls for the creation of the 'W' visa that will allow a "guest worker" from anywhere in the World. Quite clear here. Also Senator Richard Burr is co-sponsoring S. 1438.

There is NO Republican/Democrat on this issue it is either Pro-America or Anti-America.

Real Border Security and making mexico responsible means NO hemming and hawing mish-mosh cheese FOR THE BENEFIT AND PROTECTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

Tom Tancredo gets it. Bush don't.

Ronlaws Quote:

Bush, Business and other advocates want to say- well this, well that (money, sympathy) --- we can do both, still have it both ways, mish-mosh ---end result CHEESE that does nothing. ---Pro-illegal Alien, Pro-mexico NOT Pro America. Just talk Border Security and keep our system of modern day slavery. Hand out "guest-worker" visa cards en masse to to "match willing workers with willing employers" unlimited so that hiring illegal Aliens becomes a mute law and then "guest-workers" can sqaut for 3-6 years and then MAYBE return home. Everbody is simply called "Legal". That'll fix it.

You are oh so right, Ronlaws! This could be and probably is nothing more than a not so clever TRAP !

Great, just what we need to deal with now. The invasion AND a bureaucratic TRAP.

All I can say is we better stay healthy and strong, cause this is going to take some DETERMINATION.

Yeah listening to Bush's we shouldn't have to chose between a welcoming society and a lawful society, we can have both is just more wishy washy open borders rhetoric meant to manipulate the American sheeple. We can be a welcoming and lawful society without rewarding those who break our laws. We have to decide, is rewarding a bunch of foreign scofflaws who broke our laws by entering our country illegally in our countries best interest? I think the answer should be obvious.

Impeach Bush!

As angry as I am, I have to admit that I'm at least happy to see this issue finally being recognized on the national level. Up until recently, the Pres. was laughing at us, remember? He called the MinuteMen vigilantes. Remember? Well now I guess he discovered that if 87% of the American people think it is a problem to keep letting people walk across the border then it must be a problem. He now has to face his own party and explain to them why none of them will be reelected if they don't get on the stick and at least LOOK like they are interested. In order to get them to look interested, he has to look interested himself. He sent Chertoff on this same boondoggle trip a few weeks ago, remember?

I don't know if someone planted the al Quaeda scare near Brownsville a couple weeks ago or if it was an actual event. Maybe the Pres had a spat with his buddy Vincente Fox in Argentina that wasn't publicized. Nope, I don't know what happened to make the President start thinking about the border but I'm sure glad he is. Nevertheless, we can't look a gift horse in the mouth, can we?

It makes absolutely no sense to me for anyone to say it won't do any good to close the borders until they make a "guest worker" program. That is absolutely backwards. I plan to write the President a letter today thanking him for finally looking at the border,I plan to tell him, once again, that it needs to be sealed and that there is no hope that any program to allow people access to our country to take our jobs will ever be accepted by the American people. After I tell him what I have on my mind, I'm going to tell my senators and congressman once again. I suggest that everyone do the same. A little encouragement coupled with continued pressure can't hurt.