Thread: New Study Considers Cost Of Foreign Students

New Study Considers Cost Of Foreign Students
Who Pays?
5-22-8

WASHINGTON -Â* Lobbying groups frequently claim that foreign students are a benefit to America's balance of payments, comparable to a booming export sector. For instance, the Institute for International Education (IIE) asserts that foreign students contributed a net $14.5 billion to the U.S. economy during the 2006-07 school year by paying for tuition and living expenses with resources from abroad, representing a net inflow of nearly $25,000 per year, every year, from the average foreign student.
To assess these claims, the Center for Immigration Studies has published a new Backgrounder, "Who Pays? Foreign Students Do Not Help with Balance of Payments," written by immigration researcher David North. Acknowledging other, non-financial reasons the United States might benefit from admitting foreign students, North examines the most recent IIE report on foreign students' monetary contributions and compares it to two other studies on the subject. His report finds that the balance-of-payments claim is totally without merit.

The complete report is available online at http://www.cis.org/articles/2008/back608.html and includes the following findings:

* The IIE assumes that the only cost to the domestic sources is tuition. However, partially hidden subsidies from U.S. sources, such as endowments and taxpayer contributions to state schools, are not taken into consideration.

* The IIE report relies on questionable data collection techniques, using foreign student advisers as a primary source for determining whether students' funding originated overseas or domestically. In the most recent year, little more than half of the foreign student advisers surveyed even responded to the survey's question on the origin of students' resources.

* While the IEE claims that two-thirds or more of foreign students' funding comes from abroad Â* i.e., money pumped into the U.S. economy from abroad Â* other, more rigorous studies that surveyed the students themselves have produced very different results. In prior research, the author found that only 10.4 percent of the foreign students' incomes came from overseas, the rest coming from U.S. sources. A multi-agency survey of doctoral students found that only 9.7 percent of foreign students' resources came from overseas.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent research institute
which examines the impact of immigration on the United States.

Contact Bryan Griffith press@cis.org, (202) 466-8185

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net inflow of nearly $25,000 per year, every year, from the average foreign student.

Last I checked, college tuiton is more than $25k per year for international students. International students pay a higher rate than citizen students. $25k is more in line with what citizen students pay at private universities/colleges and let's face it, international students don't come to the US to attend community college.

What I'd like to know is are WE subsidizing foreign students too?

For instance, the Institute for International Education (IIE) asserts that foreign students contributed a net $14.5 billion to the U.S. economy during the 2006-07 school year by paying for tuition and living expenses with resources from abroad, representing a net inflow of nearly $25,000 per year, every year, from the average foreign student.

How many foreign students are there for $25,000 per student to add up to $14.5 billion annually.

Foreign students should pay an out of country tuition not simply out of state tuition.

We shouldn't help fund educating students who are from 'unfriendly' or 'enemy' nations. They do not simply attend school here but establish networks.

Foreign students should be limited to degrees that will not pose a threat to us once they return to their homeland.

Originally Posted by MyAmerica

For instance, the Institute for International Education (IIE) asserts that foreign students contributed a net $14.5 billion to the U.S. economy during the 2006-07 school year by paying for tuition and living expenses with resources from abroad, representing a net inflow of nearly $25,000 per year, every year, from the average foreign student.

How many foreign students are there for $25,000 per student to add up to $14.5 billion annually.

Foreign students should pay an out of country tuition not simply out of state tuition.

We shouldn't help fund educating students who are from 'unfriendly' or 'enemy' nations. They do not simply attend school here but establish networks.

Foreign students should be limited to degrees that will not pose a threat to us once they return to their homeland.

Agree on all that.

To answer your question about the math above (14.5 billion/25,000) - answer is 580,000 students. And then we wonder why the graduation/attendance rate for our high school students getting through college is so low? Why don't we focus our educating our own for a change?

And, to add insult to injury, not only is the mass education (and by definition, the 'non' education of our own citizens) of non-nationals a big 'dis' to our younger kids trying to get through school, there is also the de facto 'machine' designed to give recently graduating foreign students preference - in a myriad of ways - in jobs upon graduation too. It's a lose-lose for American students that have to fight thier way through and then hope to find a job after the process at well.

Polite factual reminder: tuition remittances DO NOT COVER THE OPERATING COSTS of maintaining any modern sizable institution of higher education. It is a big part, but by no means, the entire source of fiscal support.

Also required: Federal grants/contract, State subsidies, State grants, tax breaks, private contributions, alumni contributions, etc. etc.

The above is especially true in our larger research universities.

Originally Posted by PhredE

And, to add insult to injury, not only is the mass education (and by definition, the 'non' education of our own citizens) of non-nationals a big 'dis' to our younger kids trying to get through school, there is also the de facto 'machine' designed to give recently graduating foreign students preference - in a myriad of ways - in jobs upon graduation too. It's a lose-lose for American students that have a fight there way through and then hope to find a job after the process at well.

Good points Phred.

Thanks Pop. After re-reading what I wrote, I recognized some misspellings and a typo....

PhredE wrote:

Agree on all that.

To answer your question about the math above (14.5 billion/25,000) - answer is 580,000 students. And then we wonder why the graduation/attendance rate for our high school students getting through college is so low? Why don't we focus our educating our own for a change?

And, to add insult to injury, not only is the mass education (and by definition, the 'non' education of our own citizens) of non-nationals a big 'dis' to our younger kids trying to get through school, there is also the de facto 'machine' designed to give recently graduating foreign students preference - in a myriad of ways - in jobs upon graduation too. It's a lose-lose for American students that have to fight thier way through and then hope to find a job after the process at well.

Over half a million students--thanks for the math calculations PhredE.

As you stated PhredE foreign students are favored and enabled by our government at the expense of citizens.