Thread: Some Latino Protesters Support 'Reconquista' Of The Southwes

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDA ... e=20060410

Some Latino Protesters Support 'Reconquista' Of The Southwest
BY BRIAN MITCHELL

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted 4/10/2006

The true colors of many Latinos have been on display in the past week of protests, and they weren't just red, white and blue.

They were also red, white and green (Mexico), yellow, blue and red (Ecuador), red, yellow and green (Bolivia), blue and white (El Salvador, Guatemala) and red, white, blue and black (Anahuac).

Ana who?

Anahuac is the name for North America preferred by the Mexica Movement, one of several Hispanic separatist groups that loudly proclaim their hatred of "white" America.

The groups are small, but their younger members often go on to become mainstream Hispanic activists, never laying aside their allegiance to "La Raza."

"There is a racial aspect to this," said Glynn Custred, professor of anthropology at California State University, East Bay.

"They have no intention of assimilating," he said. "There's no secret about it. They tell you what they want to do. It's just amazing to me that the rest of the country hasn't caught on to it."

The major players in the Hispanic lobby deny any racist motives.

"The word 'La Raza,' as it's used in our name, is more about — you know — the human race," said Flavia Jimenez, immigration policy analyst with the National Council of La Raza.

Whether someone identifies with La Raza is "more an issue of language, and cultural and ethnic background," she said.

But where race leaves off and ethnicity begins is not always clear. What is clear is that some Hispanics see themselves as part of a separate nation with a better claim on U.S. territory than whites.

The Mexica movement claims Olmec ancestry and aims to take back the continent from "racist thieving" Europeans on behalf of the "Nican Tlaca," or indigenous people.

Mexicas resist all European labels such as Latino, Chicano, Hispanic, Mestizo and American. At the March 25 rally in Los Angeles, they carried banners declaring, "All Europeans are illegal aliens" and "We are Indigenous — the ONLY owners of this continent."

Conservative blogs and talk radio jumped on those marchers' anti-American sentiments.

Hard To Assimilate Separatists

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies says such rhetoric makes it harder for Mexican-Americans to assimilate.

"That radical rhetoric is mainstreamed," he said. "It doesn't mean that everybody shares it. It means that it's a legitimate part of the debate."

Closer to the mainstream is the Aztlan movement, which claims Aztec and Spanish ancestry and wants only the western half of the U.S. for "La Raza de Bronze."

A leading Aztlan group is the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, known by its Spanish acronym MEChA.

Like many other Hispanic groups, MEChA came out of the "Brown Power" movement of the late '60s. Its founding motto was, "For those in the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

Many of California's leading Hispanic politicians were "Mechistas" in college, including Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and former Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.

Bustamante's refusal to condemn MEChA contributed to his defeat by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 2003 gubernatorial race.

As a student group, MEChA tends to be dominated by immigrants' children and descendants, not immigrants themselves.

But the views of most Mexicans aren't far away from MEChA's.

A 2002 Zogby poll of Mexicans in Mexico found that 58% believe the U.S. Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico, having been stolen from Mexico in the 1800s.

Not surprisingly, 57% believe Mexicans have the right to enter the U.S. whenever they please.

"There's sort of an irredentist sentiment," said George Grayson, professor of government and Mexico specialist at the College of William and Mary.

"One seldom hears even educated Mexicans saying the laws on border crossing should be followed," he said. "It's almost as if the U.S. has an obligation to redress its sins of the nineteenth century."

This editorial is an excellent find Brian! It's in an important newspaper that's widely read within the financial community, and by investors.

By way of background I did check Mexican history and the Aztec's never extended into what is now the USA. Aztlan is where the Aztec's first started wandering or something.

There were two Native American tribal grouping that included part of what is now the border area between Mexico and the USA - the Apache and Yaqui. Neither was conquered by the Spanish so unfortunately the "Gringo's Out" adherent's loose out.

BTW: The only Americans excluded from the "Gringo's Out" demand for us Americans to leave are those 100% descended from Native Americans. Racial purity is apparently very important to this crowd, which is not some small group either!

Also what does "La Raza" mean in Spanish?

Illegals_out_now--
You are absolutely correct on the facts. Aztecs and Mayan descendents never were in what is now America, and the Mexican government only had territorial claims to the desert southwest for 25 years or so between their independence from Spain to their a** kicking from us. So, where does this fact put us? Nowhere I'm afraid because the populist belief among the illegals and among Mexicans in general is that this is their mythical Aztlan---end of discussion. They don't want to be confused with the facts, they've already got their minds made up on it. Add to that the fact that these are generally poorly educated people who have been fed the vicitimization by mean America bit their entire lives, you start to get the picture.

I'm intrigued by the fact that this is being put out there by a financial magazine such as this. Might investors start pulling money out of the desert southwest or stop investing in new projects there? Some might for fear of capital loss. Should be interesting to watch... As for me, I'm glad we never bought any overpriced real estate out here!!

There is the financial aspect of course, but news outlets also seem to read each others editorials. This is one of the best documented descriptions of the "Gringo's Out" movement as I call it.

Great find Brian!

Added to the homepage

https://www.alipac.us/article-1148-thread-1-0.html

Thanks Brian -

Great find.

I had been trying to tell several of my co-workers about this stuff --
but they would always tell me things like --

"Weeelll that sounds a little out there"
"Are you sure about your facts?"
"Sounds like somebody is just trying to make some sh*t up"

So - I sent them the links to LaRaza and to Aztlan web-pages.

But - still - they came back with:
"Wellll - those are just two guys web-sites...."
"Maybe a few of them may think like that - but i'm sure most of them dont..."

ERRRGGHHH !!

But today I found this site and sent them the link.
By lunchtime they were ready to listen and talk -- LOL.

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I just wonder tho - if the Illegal Aliens take a day off from work
so that the we and our govt can "feel the pain of their absence" and
then beg for them to return and mow our yards, etc...


Why dont WE - LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS - all call in sick to work on one specially
selected day/week and let our govt "feel the pain" of 298 million Legal American Citizens
not showing up to work for that day or week...

Raven,
Welcome. There is such a day in the works. See post in News and Information from other groups entitled A Day Without Americans planned for next Monday, April 17, 2006.
Glad to have you aboard!

Terrific !!

Thanks Mom !!