Thread: NC House votes to ban Mexico’s Matricula Consular card

North Carolina House votes to ban Mexico’s Matricula Consular card

March 29th, 2011 10:13 pm ET

Dave Gibson

On Tuesday, by a vote of 64-53, the North Carolina House of Representatives passed HB33 which bans the use of the Matricula Consular card, issued by the government of Mexico as an acceptable form of identification.

HB33 will mean that the cards which are not verifiable and easily faked, will no longer be accepted by any state agency, including police and schools.

The bill which was co-sponsored by Rep. Mike Hager (R-Rutherford) and Rep. George Cleveland (R-Onslow) passed along party lines, with all but one Democrat voting against it.

Rep. Cleveland argued: “The Matricula Consular is in reality not worth the paper or plastic it’s made out of,â€

Next up (third reading) In house, then on to the Senate

It should be noted that while our President and Congress ordered American banks to recognize these Mexican-issued cards, there is not one Mexican bank which accepts their own government’s Matricula Consular card as a valid form of ID, because the bearer’s identity is basically untraceable. I have been saying this for YEARS

The Durham City Attorney issued the following statement on the matter: "The official purpose of the card is to demonstrate that the holder is a Mexican citizen living outside of Mexico. It includes an official Government of Mexico issued ID number and bears a photograph and address of the Mexican National to whom it is issued."
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Patrick Baker
Durham City Attorney,
City Of Durham, City Attorney's Office
101 City Hall Plaza
Durham, NC 27701-3329
Phone: (919) 560-4158

Common sense alert!!!!

Nowadays there is little common sense, it seems, in politics anyway. Gives one hope!

"Here's your boy Patrick!" Sorry! North Carolina!

Durham City Council – Why Supported by Black Community – Mex. Matricula Card

December 22, 2010 by randyedye

On November 15th, in a 5-2 vote, the Durham City Council approved the use of the Mexican matricula consular IDs as a valid form of identification. Unfortunately, it is not surprising that the council approved this motion. What is so surprising is that the black community continues to support this city council.

It is well documented that “conservativesâ€

"Baker the Faker!"
Patrick.Baker@durhamnc.gov

Card by Mexican consulate refused n NC House bill
By GARY D. ROBERTSON - Associated Press


RALEIGH, N.C. -- A photo identification card issued by the Mexican consulate would no longer be considered acceptable ID in North Carolina to prove identity or establish state residency by police, judges and government officials in legislation tentatively approved Tuesday in the House.

The measure, which provoked arguments on the House floor over illegal immigration and the growing Hispanic population in the state's workforce, targeted the "matricula consular" that Mexican citizens can receive while in the United States.

The ID card would be removed from a list of acceptable documents to establish state residency to get a driver's license, obtain auto insurance or enroll in Medicaid. The IDs also could no longer be accepted by local governments, and the prohibitions would apply to similar cards issued by other countries for their citizens in the U.S.

The FBI has called the matricula consular an unreliable document, said Rep. Mike Hager, R-Rutherford, one of the bill's chief sponsors. The Transportation Security Administration doesn't list that ID among those that can be shown to get through a security checkpoint and onto a flight. Critics of immigration policy argue that bogus cards are fabricated and used by people in the country illegally.

The matricula consular "is not worth the paper and plastic that it's printed on," said Rep. George Cleveland, R-Onslow, another bill sponsor, before the bill was given initial approval by a vote of 64-53. "Basically anyone that wants one can get one."

Opponents of the bill said cards issued by the Mexican consulate - there's one in Raleigh - are reputable, pointing to comments made by Mexico's consul general for the Carolinas to a committee last week. Removing the cards from the list will harm relations between the state and many countries, speakers said during floor debate.

"The Mexican consul spoke in the number of ways that this is a valid ID card," said Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham. "We are saying to the Mexican government ... we reject the actions of your government."

The abuse of the cards doesn't seem to be a great problem in this state, since state officials didn't come to the committee to support the bill, said Rep. Bill Faison, D-Orange.

The bill could make it impossible for parents to pick up their children at school in a district that requires photo identification to take them out of school, Luebke said. The chamber rejected Luebke's proposed amendment that would have made clear the matricula consular was valid in those situations.

Another defeated amendment would have preserved the use of the card to obtain liability insurance. Hager and Cleveland said there would still be several other forms of acceptable ID, such as a passport, or even a utility bill with a person's name on it, allowed in the law.

"If you are a legal immigrant in the United States you are required to carry your ID with you at all times," Hager said.

Luebke represents Durham, one of at least two North Carolina cities that have directed police and other departments to accept it as any other valid form of identification, as some banks do.

Bill opponents argued that eliminating the use of the matricula consular for residency will make it harder to identify inmates in county jails and people during public health crises. It also sends the wrong signal to people from other countries who work here, said Rep. Deborah Ross, D-Wake.

Democratic Rep. Tim Spear of Washington County joined all but two Republicans who voted for the bill. GOP Reps. Jeff Barnhart of Cabarrus County and Danny McComas of New Hanover County voted no. A final House vote is needed before it goes to the Senate.

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"The Mexican consul spoke in the number of ways that this is a valid ID card," said Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham. "We are saying to the Mexican government ... we reject the actions of your government."

Oh the thought!

Then why doesn't the Mexican government recognize the card in their own country?

Originally Posted by jean

"The Mexican consul spoke in the number of ways that this is a valid ID card," said Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham. "We are saying to the Mexican government ... we reject the actions of your government."

Oh the thought!

Then why doesn't the Mexican government recognize the card in their own country?

Luebke, you are so full of it, you dont know whats right and wrong.
The problem with you, Paul, is that because you live in Durham, you think that their vote on the Card a couple of months ago was valid and a good idea.
IF ITS SO DAMN GOOD why does not mexican government tell everyone that its not even valid in Mexico.

You Moron