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    Judge blocks rules cracking down on employers of illegal imm

    Judge blocks rules cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants

    Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

    (08-31) 17:16 PDT SAN FRANCISCO - A federal judge in San Francisco blocked the Bush administration today from imposing a rule that would require employers to fire workers identified as illegal immigrants in government records or face possible prosecution.

    U.S. District Judge Maxine Chesney granted a nationwide temporary restraining order sought by the AFL-CIO and affiliated unions to keep the government from sending letters to employers demanding that they clear up workers' citizenship status.

    The order will be in effect until Oct. 1, when another federal judge will consider whether to grant an injunction that would block the rules until a trial on the unions' lawsuit against the government is held.

    Chesney said there was a "serious question" about whether the Bush administration's planned crackdown on illegal workers was authorized by law. She also said the government would suffer little inconvenience from a delay, compared with the hardship to employees who might be improperly identified as illegal immigrants.

    Officials had planned to send the first warning letters Tuesday and mail 140,000 letters to employers by Nov. 9.

    Justice Department lawyer Daniel Bensing told Chesney that the government wanted the issue resolved before Sept. 14, when the new rule was scheduled to take effect, and objected to a schedule that would delay enforcement until at least October. But he did not indicate any intention to challenge the judge's order.

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced the rule Aug. 10 as a means of toughening the little-enforced 1986 law that subjects employers to criminal prosecution or civil penalties for knowingly employing illegal immigrants.

    Employers now can satisfy the law if they obtain specified identification documents from newly hired workers. After that, the government notifies employers if the Social Security number on a worker's W-2 tax form doesn't match the number in the Social Security database. That employee may not have earnings credited for Social Security benefits, but no action is taken against the employer.

    Under the new rule, employers receiving such a "no-match" letter would have to fire the worker, or face possible civil fines and criminal penalties, if the discrepancy isn't cleared up within 90 days. The change would be likely to have its greatest effect in California, where several industries employ large numbers of undocumented workers.

    The unions argued that past experience with no-match letters shows that they are often sent mistakenly because of clerical errors by employers or the government in recording numbers, or because of name changes after a marriage, divorce or other innocent reasons.

    The AFL-CIO also said Social Security was never intended to be a means of tracking down illegal immigrants, and is so cumbersome that legal employees will be unable to clear up discrepancies in 90 days.

    The unions argued that the 1986 law, which prohibited employers from knowingly employing illegal immigrants, required only a document check for newly hired workers and did not authorize the government to order additional verification after hiring.

    Government lawyers said the new rule was consistent with the 1986 law and merely gave employers an additional way to resolve uncertainties about their employees' immigration status and avoid liability.

    At today's hearing, Chesney said her decision to block the rule didn't mean she thought it was necessarily illegal. But she told Bensing, who represented the government, that it would be important to present evidence showing a connection between a no-match letter and "a reasonable inference that the person is here illegally."

    Lawyers for the unions said they were encouraged.

    "We're confident that the rule will be struck down," said attorney Scott Kronland.

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    so how can a judge in San Francisco block this nationwide? Please tell me we didn't let some liberal idiot have that much power.. This is rediculous.
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    Probably planned by Bush and Co from the start. Bush doesn't give a crap about America or Americans. He is doing his level best to destroy this country before he leaves office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justanamerican
    Probably planned by Bush and Co from the start. Bush doesn't give a crap about America or Americans. He is doing his level best to destroy this country before he leaves office.
    You have that right! Even more proof was reassigning twenty percent of ICE agents. Not to mention doing nothing about a border with more holes in it that swiss cheese. Then to add insult to injury, Bush pleads to allow Mexican trucks to roam free in America. This president does not give a damn for American citizens.

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    This is all wrong. They have been sending out these no match letters for years now!

    All the Bush administration said was that if you were receiving these letters and never clearing them up that IF THEY RAIDED you MIGHT get a fine.

    This whole thing stinks.

    Bill Clinton was an enforcement ACE compared to these pretenses by Bush!

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    This is what we get from years of liberal, activist judges. Why am I not surprised that this judge is in San Francisco,on of the most liberal enclaves in our nation? When we get out country back, we are going to have to take steps to reign in the judiciary, so that this sort of thing cannot happen!
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    I hope the next federal judge is not from or in San Francisco. For once, can't common sense prevail??
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    This is a load of crap how the hell can they enforce the laws if they are stoped at every turn, and how can a judge over turn congress. This makes me sick they need to throw all 9th circuit judges out!!


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