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    Hasta la Reconquista, baby!

    These open border, pro illegals just haven't fiqured it out yet. If she thinks her sardonic phrasing is helping thier cause. Whoops...screwed up again!

    Hasta la Reconquista, baby!
    Mariel Garza, Columnist

    WELCOME to the revolution.

    There's no point in hiding it any longer. The more observant members of society have already figured out that there's a secret Latino movement under way to evict every last Anglo-European American from the Southwest and reclaim the land that Mexico lost in the Mexican-American War of the mid-1880s. (Or sold, technically, since Mexico agreed to give up the land for $15 million in cash. Whatever.)

    We might have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for the brave anti-immigration soldiers and commentators such as Michelle Malkin pointing out the brown peril. By we, I mean every single Mexican-American in the Southwest United States, even the half-breeds like me, regardless of how deep their family's American roots may go.

    The plan is called La Reconquista, and what it means is that we are dead set on turning California and its neighboring states into Mexifornia. Or is it Aztlan? I can't remember; I'm going to have to consult the memo sent out by Mayor Reconquista, Antonio Vivalaraza.

    I do remember, however, that the goal is to turn Wilshire Boulevard into Avenida Revolucion norte, right down to the sad painted donkeys and the drunken sailors. Football will be outlawed, and futbol will be installed in all the stadiums of this new Mexican state. Because we want this to be just like our beloved Mexico, the current political system of special-interest pandering will be replaced by one of complete corruption and institutionalized bribery. Plus, all the toilet seats in public restrooms will be removed — but that's just for fun.

    Why would we do this? That's a valid question, particularly for those of us who have never lived in Mexico — or who have fled Mexico — and like our stable economic system the way it is, thank you very much.

    The answer, of course, is that we aren't.

    It's the most ridiculous, specious and, frankly, dismaying aspect of the national immigration debate. There are many far more legitimate issues to genuinely worry about with millions of illegal immigrants living and working in the United States virtually unknown and without sharing the same societal responsibilities as legal citizens.

    You think I like the fact that there are groups of immigrant men living in the bushes near my house? Heck no. But I don't imagine that they are some sort of advance army for a Mexican invasion, as some have suggested. That would make for a comic Farrelly brothers movie — squadrons of crack judo experts disguised as tiny middle-age women and skinny boys armed with water bottles and backpacks of clothes, whose very bodies are the only weapons they need to take on the technologically advanced forces of the U.S. Funny maybe, but not all that realistic.

    Still, the concept remains quite prevalent and is starting to hijack the larger discussion of immigration solutions and take it into the darker world of fringy anti-immigrant circles. Type “Reconquista” into Google and you get more than 3 million hits. It even has its own Wikipedia entry.

    What's even more disturbing is the widespread use of war rhetoric by anti-immigration groups. To get a sense of the new and disturbing language in the immigration debate, check out the chat rooms of the California-based www.saveourstate.org to see the postings from people such as “street fighting man” and “contraztlan warrior” who share strategies, stories and bits of wisdom such as: “Let us speek AMERICAN again.” The site also offers evidence of the invasion, which are mainly pictures of billboards in Spanish and brown-skinned day laborers standing along the side of a street.

    Or visit my favorite local anti-immigration blog, immigrationwatchdog.org, which refers to immigrants as “invaders,” or americanborderpatrol.com, motto: “Bringing you to the front line.”

    Anti-immigrants aren't the only ones employing the war talk. There's the crackpot who advocates the Mexican Movement online, which really is a re-reconquista plan, since it denounces all European occupiers in both Mexico and the U.S. This dude hardly represents the average Mexican immigrant, legal or not.

    It's a brilliant strategy, though. If you dehumanize the people you don't like by calling them alien invaders rather than people, it's a lot easier to get rid of them.

    This is how it starts, by sowing the seeds of “otherness” on both sides of the debate, by dividing ourselves up into “us” and “them.” I don't even know which one I would be.

    There is no serious reconquista plan, but maybe there should be. It's time for rational Americans to reconquer the immigration debate before the soldier wannabes stirring up the brown peril pot start believing their own rhetoric.

    Mariel Garza is a columnist and editorial writer for the Los Angeles Daily News. Write to her by e-mail at mariel.garza@dailynews.com

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    Anti-immigrants aren't the only ones employing the war talk. There's the crackpot who advocates the Mexican Movement online, which really is a re-reconquista plan
    Which one of these is the lone crackpot?









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    I send her a email that says:

    It's a brilliant strategy, though. If you dehumanize the people you don't like by calling them alien invaders rather than people, it's a lot easier to get rid of them

    Using your quote, this is the way anti-ILLEGAL filks like me also see it:
    It's a brilliant strategy, though. If you dehumanize the people you don't like by calling them RACISTS rather than people, it's a lot easier to get rid of them.

    Any Latino group; MECHA, La Raza (The RACE??) cites anyone calling for the enforcement of our laws a racists. Which we Americans laugh at… Illegal knows no color. I am just as ticked at the blond blue eyed german illegal, the pale red head Irish illegal that speaks perfect English, the illegal Korean, Japanese and Chinese… How can we be called racists?? Perhaps a scolding from you could set them straight. Haha.

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    This is like someone trying to steal your wallet and while they have their hand in your pocket grabbing your wallet at the same time they are yelling, I'm not trying to steal your wallet, I'm not trying to steal your wallet.

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    Anti-immigrants aren't the only ones employing the war talk. There's the crackpot who advocates the Mexican Movement online, which really is a re-reconquista plan, since it denounces all European occupiers in both Mexico and the U.S. This dude hardly represents the average Mexican immigrant, legal or not.

    Ya well crackpot or not.....there's a massive following. The "intelligent" ones are still saying "Latino" rights, "Latino" issues, and not "American" issues. Even this person said they didn't know for sure which side they'd choose in an "us or them" mentality.

    I like that saying.....not all Muslims are terriorists but all terriorists are Muslims. Same thing holds here. Especially since they continue to seperate things and make it an us or them situation. Latinos aren't the only ones who want and need to work. Latinos aren't the only ones who want a better life. Latinos aren't the only ones who are used and abused by big business. Latinos aren't the only ones who want to see their children educated. Latinos aren't the only ones who want their voice heard. Latinos aren't the only ones who want the "American dream". There's Americans here of all races that have lived here for generations that are still trying to achieve that. It's an oppertunity, not an entitlement. And until there isn't exemptions and race cards and law breaking overlooked and "special" considerations and demands that are only for "their" people.......then sorry....feels like a takeover to me.
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    Augustin Cebada, Information Minister of Brown Berets, militant para-military soldiers of Aztlan shouting at U.S. citizens at an Independence Day rally in Los Angeles, 7/4/96

    "Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets, we're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children, we clean their offices, we pick the food, we do the manufacturing in the factories of L.A., we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around. We're here in Westwood, this is the fourth time we've been here in the last two months, to show white Anglo-Saxon Protestant L.A., the few of you who remain, that we are the majority, and we claim this land as ours, it's always been ours, and we're still here, and none of the talk about deporting. If anyone's going to be deported it's going to be you! Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! To back to the Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You're old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you, leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. Even their own ethicists say that they should die, that they have a duty to die. They're taking up too much space, too much air. We are the majority in L.A. There's over seven million Mexicans in L.A. County alone. We are the majority. And you're going to see every day more and more of it, as we manifest as our young people grow up, graduate from high school, go on to college and start taking over this society. The vast majority of our people are under the age of 15 years old. Right now we're already controlling those elections, whether it's by violence or nonviolence. Through love of having children we're going to take over." Other demonstrators: "Raza fuerza (brown race power), this is Aztlan, this is Mexico. They're the pilgrims on our land. Go back to the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria."
    [b][i][size=117]"Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.â€

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    Not sure how much substance there is to the whole Reconquista movement. But, a friend recently told me that she was listening to NPR one day back a couple months ago when Vicente Fox was visiting the western states. During the NPR report, in the background, was the voice of Fox giving a speech in Spanish to some group of immigrants, during which he dropped a number of inflammatory words, including "the revolution." She said her jaw nearly hit the floor. Though she had not been specifically aware of the Reconquista movement, she said the meaning of Fox's words were crystal clear.

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    was the voice of Fox giving a speech in Spanish to some group of immigrants, during which he dropped a number of inflammatory words, including the revolution." She said her jaw nearly hit the floor. Though she had not been specifically aware of the Reconquista movement, she said the meaning of Fox's words were crystal clear.
    Kate, I don't doubt it one bit

    Not sure how much substance there is to the whole Reconquista movement
    I don't care weather you call it Reconquista or cultural overthrow. The outcome is much the same. It doesn't have to be by banditos with weapons. Numbers by themselves are quite effective.
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    Please, read demands from illegals to Congress and Senate
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    Tell your Representative to Support Comprehensive Reform.
    We need a conference committee to pass reform now!

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