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    Immigrants (Illegal) Await Boost From Pontiff


    November 23, 2007 Edition
    Immigrants Await Boost From Pontiff
    In Visit to N.Y., Benedict May Wade Into Policy Feud
    BY SARAH GARLAND - Staff Reporter of the Sun
    November 23, 2007
    URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/66871

    Illegal immigrants and their advocates, disappointed after a string of policy and legislative defeats this year, are now looking to Pope Benedict XVI's visit this spring as the best hope for a boost to their cause.

    Some Catholic immigrants, along with advocates and representatives of the church, are predicting that the pope could take up the plight of illegal immigrants in America during his trip, reopening national debate over a touchy political topic as the presidential campaign heats up.

    "We hope that he speaks for us, because he's someone who is higher up than we are. He can give us a hand," a Mexican immigrant, Andy Benitez, 26, said as he left morning Mass at Our Lady of Guadalupe Church at 14th Street on Sunday.

    "He has a lot of power. He could help us if he talked about it," Rodolfo Huepa, 38, also from Mexico, said. "It could finally be a positive thing."

    Some advocates now say that a change to the immigration laws is unlikely until the end of the presidential campaign, as politicians try to avoid an issue that has its perils. Efforts to win congressional passage of a "comprehensive" immigration law that would have provided illegal immigrants with a path to legalization collapsed this summer, and Governor Spitzer earlier this month abandoned his plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

    Already, Senator Clinton, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, has been criticized for hesitating about her opinion of Governor Spitzer's driver's license plan during a debate, while Mayor Giuliani, a candidate for the Republican nomination and a Catholic, has tried to square his past openness to illegal immigrants with his more recent hard-line stance.

    But this pope's first visit to America as pontiff has the potential to bring the issue back from the dead. Benedict XVI will meet with President Bush at the White House on April 16 and will address the United Nations in New York on April 18. Representatives of the Catholic Church were hesitant to predict exactly what he might say, and were adamant that he would not take a position on any specific legislation. But they did suggest that it was likely he would bring up the immigration issue, which has long been a priority for American Catholics.

    "Certainly the issue of immigration is one that is a very important issue for the Vatican. It is a very constant theme. It wouldn't surprise me if that were something that was mentioned," a spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York, which is coordinating the pope's New York stay, Joseph Zwilling, said.

    "It's not wishful thinking," said the pastor of St. Brigid's Church in Bushwick, Brooklyn, Monsignor James Kelly, who can occasionally be found on the front lines of immigrant worker rallies in his parish. "I wouldn't expect him to have a statement on the New York State debate on driver's licenses, but we would hope that somehow his presence would enhance the efforts by the church to bring about a more just situation and to bring about some sort of immigration reform," he said.

    The American Catholic Church, which is increasingly made up of Hispanics, was at the forefront of the failed push for the overhaul of federal immigration law. Meanwhile, the policy arm of the church in New York, the state Catholic Conference, was supportive of Governor Spitzer's license plan.

    "Our belief is in the dignity of each person, no matter what country they come from. If the Holy Father were to speak on the topic, I would expect him to affirm those parts of our church teaching, and to speak of the gift and the blessing a country has when it is graced by immigrants from so many different countries," the executive director of the Catholic Charities of the Archdioceses of New York, Monsignor Kevin Sullivan, said.

    The pastor of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which draws Mexicans from across the city because of its shrine to Mexico's patron saint, Kevin Nelan, said he believed the pope would "certainly mention the plight of illegal immigrants."

    An Ecuadorian priest visiting the city for a religious festival over the weekend, Jose Valdivieso, said in Spanish that he "should talk about it because the people depend on him and our countries depend on these immigrants."

    It is unclear what the impact could be if the pope were to discuss immigration, although it could force skittish political candidates to respond.

    A spokesman for the New York State Catholic Conference, Dennis Poust, said he was reluctant to guess what the pope might say, but added, "Whatever topic he chooses to speak on could spur action just for the headlines it generates."

    For a few immigrants, however, the thought that the pope would acknowledge their situation at all seemed to be enough.

    "I would hope he talks about it, but the main thing is that he blesses us," said Erika Flores, 31, who is from Mexico.
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    "Certainly the issue of immigration is one that is a very important issue for the Vatican."

    Sure it is, after millions of catholics left their church after the Child Molestation Scandal, they have less money in their coffers. Now their looking for more revenue from illegal aliens. If the catholic chuch is so concerned with the Illegal Aliens plight, they should advocate for them in their home countries where the trouble really is.
    “In questions of power…let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” –Thomas Jefferson

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    And the POPE can also mind his business. ILLEGAL ALIENS in the U.S. ARE NOT his business. If he likes them so much, he should invite them to Rome. See if the Italian people accept them by the millions.

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    "Certainly the issue of immigration is one that is a very important issue for the Vatican. It is a very constant theme
    Hopefully they'll immigrate to Rome where the 'other constant theme' originated. The king on the 7 hills needs to butt out!
    We are NOT a nation of immigrants!

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    Oh Pleeeezee! Hasn't the Catholic heiracy ticked off enough people with the scandals??

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    Too bad he isn't visiting Mexico where his flock would go to greet him and be denied illegal re-entry into the U.S.


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    These illegals in the US think they're better than the illegals in Italy or anywhere else in the world? Not bloody likely the pope would come to their rescue. If he does, they definitely won't like what he has to say!
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