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    Who pays? Care for illegal immigrants must be shared

    Who pays? Care for illegal immigrants must be shared

    The Houston Chronicle
    December 1, 2009

    Democrats versus Republicans. Red states versus blue.

    To this short list of frequently superheated political rivalries, we would add a third that is gathering force. It is the scrum over the related issues of how immigrants here illegally should be counted in the upcoming census and who should ultimately pay for the medical services they require.

    This clash of views defies the ideological boundaries that so clearly define the other two. It is more geographic than political, pitting mostly Northern states that are losing population and do not have large cohorts of undocumented residents against border states that are growing rapidly, have larger illegal populations and so must shoulder more of the costs of services to this population.

    It has been playing out in two arenas: the Census count and the health care reform debate. No surprise: This is about power and money. No surprise, too: Texas finds itself in the middle of both.

    The developing census fray is a battle to keep congressional seats being waged by states that are losing population and thus stand to lose representation in Washington. Their principal argument is that those here illegally should not be counted even though, historically, the census count has been universal. Using this arithmetic, these states would avoid losses in representation at the expense of high-growth states such as Texas. Since the number of Senate and House seats up for grabs is fixed, this is a zero-sum game.

    The matter of who pays for health care for illegal immigrants has been partially settled in the reform debate continuing in the Senate: The federal government will not. That satisfies most conservatives and vexes many liberals, but it leaves a huge unanswered question for all: Who does pay?

    With the nation's largest group of uninsured, and a burgeoning group of illegal residents, Texas has an obvious and enormous stake in the outcome of this fight.

    We believe history and fairness argue persuasively that responsibility for caring for those here illegally must not be left only to the region most affected. The burden must be shared.

    We would argue this side in the matter even if Texas were on the other side of the argument. Avoiding a fractured approach on these important and related issues goes far beyond simple fairness: It is foundational to the continued health of our democratic union.

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    We believe history and fairness argue persuasively that responsibility for caring for those here illegally must not be left only to the region most affected. The burden must be shared.
    That's why we need to invest in ENFORCEMENT and DEPORTATION!! Let their own countries care for them, we should not!!!
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    Right on Miguelina
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    We need to change EMTALA so that it gets citizenship info and reports illegals to ICE after treatment and stabilization. We must stop illegals from receiving transplants, dialysis treatements, cancer treatments etc. on a regular basis. We must identify these people and return them to their home country for treatment.

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    If I were given a choice between paying healthcare for illegals and deporting them, I choose the latter of the two. At least this way I know my money would be going to a better cause.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    We had previously discussed legislation that was introduced to subtract the cost of medical care for illegals from any payments to their home countries. I would strongly support that measure but assume it will never get past the Dems.
    "A Nation of sheep will beget a government of Wolves" -Edward R. Murrow

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    The matter of who pays for health care for illegal immigrants has been partially settled in the reform debate continuing in the Senate: The federal government will not. That satisfies most conservatives and vexes many liberals, but it leaves a huge unanswered question for all: Who does pay?
    "Who does pay?" The Mexican government should pay! These illegals are their people, not ours. Put them on a Mexican healthcare plan.

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    Every illegal immigrant and their family members should be able to apply to the Mexican government health system, or other country of their origin, for monthly reimbursements to be mailed to their residences. These funds could then be paid in the U.S. while they are here for whatever legitimate health care they can afford through these reimbursments.

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