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    Fleeing to Mexico Thwarts Death Penalty

    Jan 17, 6:19 PM EST

    Fleeing to Mexico Thwarts Death Penalty

    By MICHELLE ROBERTS
    Associated Press Writer

    SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- A methamphetamine dealer who gunned down a deputy during a traffic stop in Southern California. A man in Arizona who killed his ex-girlfriend's parents and brother and snatched his children. A man who suffocated his baby daughter and left her body in a toolbag on an expressway overpass near Chicago.

    Ordinarily, these would be death penalty cases. But these men fled to Mexico, thereby escaping the possibility of execution.

    The reason: Mexico refuses to send anyone back to the United States unless the U.S. gives assurances it won't seek the death penalty - a 30-year-old policy that rankles some American prosecutors and enrages victims' families.

    "We find it extremely disturbing that the Mexican government would dictate to us, in Arizona, how we would enforce our laws at the same time they are complaining about our immigration laws," said Barnett Lotstein, special assistant to the prosecutor in Maricopa County, Ariz., which includes Phoenix.

    "Even in the most egregious cases, the Mexican authorities say, `No way,' and that's not justice. That's an interference of Mexican authorities in our judicial process in Arizona."

    It may be about to happen again: A Marine accused of murdering a pregnant comrade in North Carolina and burning her remains in his backyard is believed to have fled to Mexico. Prosecutors said they have not decided whether to seek the death penalty. But if the Marine is captured in Mexico, capital punishment will be off the table.

    Fugitives trying to escape the long arm of the law have been making a run for the border ever since frontier days, a practice romanticized in countless Hollywood Westerns.

    Mexico routinely returns fugitives to the U.S. to face justice. But under a 1978 treaty with the U.S., Mexico, which has no death penalty, will not extradite anyone facing possible execution. To get their hands on a fugitive, U.S. prosecutors must agree to seek no more than life in prison.

    Other countries, including France and Canada, also demand such "death assurances." But the problem is more common with Mexico, since it is often a quick drive from the crime scene for a large portion of the United States.

    "If you can get to Mexico - if you have the means - it's a way of escaping the death penalty," said Issac Unah, a University of North Carolina political science professor.

    The Justice Department said death assurances from foreign countries are fairly common, but it had no immediate numbers. State Department officials said Mexico extradited 73 suspects to the U.S. in 2007. Most were wanted on drug or murder charges.

    Lolita Parkinson, a spokeswoman for the Mexican Consulate in Houston, said Mexico opposes capital punishment on human rights grounds and has a particular obligation to protect the rights of people of Mexican descent who face prosecution in the U.S.

    The U.S. government typically pays more attention to those entering the country from Mexico than it does to those trying to leave the U.S. But Texas authorities have begun making checks of vehicles and drivers heading south on the 25 international bridges that connect the state to Mexico.

    The initiative, announced in October, was originally intended to catch drug smugglers taking cash or stolen cars into Mexico, but "we would hope it would be a deterrent for fugitives" as well, said Allison Castle, a spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry.

    In the North Carolina case, local authorities and the FBI are working with Mexican law enforcement to hunt down Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean, a 21-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen born in Mexico. He is accused of killing 20-year-old Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach in mid-December, months after she accused him of rape.

    Wanted posters and information on Laurean have been distributed to the Mexican media.

    Also recently, prosecutors in Dallas pledged not to seek the death penalty if Mexico extradites Ernesto Reyes, a man accused of killing and burning the body of a University of North Texas student last year. That extradition request is still pending.

    Last March, Teri March, the widow of a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy who was killed during a traffic stop in 2002, lashed out at Mexico's justice system as Jorge Arroyo Garcia was sentenced to life in prison in California after hiding out in Mexico.

    "Garcia hid and hid behind a system that was very broken," she said.

    John Walsh, host of TV's long-running "America's Most Wanted," which plans to devote Saturday's episode to the Marine case, said the delays and death-penalty compromises needed to get fugitives returned can be heartbreaking for victims' families

    "It's not about revenge. It's not so much about closure. It's about justice," he said.

    Lotstein, the prosecutor's assistant in Phoenix, said the county has agreed to drop the death penalty in a number of cases: "The option we have is absolutely no justice, or partial justice."

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    Looks like our Amnesty-Baby-Killin'-Girlfriend-rappin'-burnin' illegal Marine from Guadalaraja is okay...whew that was clos
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    Lolita Parkinson, a spokeswoman for the Mexican Consulate in Houston, said Mexico opposes capital punishment on human rights grounds and has a particular obligation to protect the rights of people of Mexican descent who face prosecution in the U.S.
    Sounds like that is racist to me. Oh, that's right, Mexicans aren't a race unless it's illegal alien Mexicans whining about the racist U.S. immigration laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Lolita Parkinson, a spokeswoman for the Mexican Consulate in Houston, said Mexico opposes capital punishment on human rights grounds and has a particular obligation to protect the rights of people of Mexican descent who face prosecution in the U.S.
    Sounds like that is racist to me. Oh, that's right, Mexicans aren't a race unless it's illegal alien Mexicans whining about the racist U.S. immigration laws.

    Really? That is racist? Sounds more like a Nativist Gringo Killer to me. One more American dies to the hands of an illegal and I am going to go become the most evil-anti-illegal-immigrant to date. Not by force, or legal means, but by manipulation. I've studied this cr@p for over a year and think I can nail it. Our politicians are as dumb as the people they manipulate.

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    Mexico will not extradite in death penalty cases but also in cases that involve life imprisonment. The former marine is home free.

    But some of the forward momentum was lost in October of 2001, when the Supreme Court ruled that life imprisonment (as well as capital punishment) is a violation of the Mexican Constitution. As such, the extradition of fugitives who might face either penalty can only be authorized if the requesting country provides absolute assurances that neither sentence will be imposed.
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    Lolita Parkinson, a spokeswoman for the Mexican Consulate in Houston, said Mexico opposes capital punishment on human rights

    For some reason Mexico and Human rights in the same sentence is well laughable!!!!
    A better statement for Ms Parkinson should be " Mexico only cares about human rights when it pertains to Illegal Mexican people living in the United States"

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    Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean, a 21-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen born in Mexico.

    If he's a naturalized US citizen then Mexico should not have any say in the matter.

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