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08-24-2007, 11:30 AM #1
Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello prot
Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest
CBC News
Friday Aug 24, 2007
Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello, Que.
However, the police force denied allegations its undercover officers were there on Monday to provoke the crowd and instigate violence.
"At no time did the police of the Sûreté du Québec act as instigators or commit criminal acts," the police force said in French in a news release. "It is not in the police force's policies, nor in its strategies, to act in that manner.
"At all times, they responded within their mandate to keep order and security."
Police said the three undercover officers were only at the protest to locate and identify non-peaceful protesters in order to prevent any incidents.
Police came under fire Tuesday, when a video surfaced on YouTube that appeared to show three plainclothes police officers at the protest with bandanas across their faces. One of the men was carrying a rock.
In the video, protest organizers in suits order the men to put the rock down, call them police instigators and try unsuccessfully to unmask them.
Police-issued boots identified fake protesters
Protest organizers on Wednesday played the video for the media at a news conference in Ottawa. One of the organizers, union leader Dave Coles, explained that one reason protesters knew the men's true identities was because they were wearing the same boots as other police officers.
Coles said on Wednesday that the only thing he didn't know was whether the men were Quebec police, RCMP or hired security officers.
"[Our union] believes that the security force at Montebello were ordered to infiltrate our peaceful assembly and provoke incidents," said Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union.
Police said the three were told to monitor protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating to prevent any violent incidents, but they were called out as undercover agents when they refused to throw objects.
Concern Canada losing control of its energy
The protest at Montebello occurred outside the Fairmont Le Château Montebello hotel, near Ottawa, where Prime Minister Stephen Harper was meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Felipe Calderon. The summit about border security, free trade and other issues began Monday and finished Tuesday.
Protesters said they gathered to voice their concern about Canada losing control of its energy and water resources and borders. Others decried what they called a high level of secrecy at the summit.
The Quebec provincial police will not comment any further on the affair, a spokeswoman in Montreal said.
Quebec Justice Minister Jacques Dupuis was made aware of the news, but a spokesman from his office said he will not comment on the matter either.
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08-24-2007, 11:35 AM #2Police said the three undercover officers were only at the protest to locate and identify non-peaceful protesters in order to prevent any incidents.
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08-24-2007, 11:44 AM #3
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I saw the video
Can they sue the police force.
I saw the video, I saw the rock in the protesters hand and all was working until they had there bandana's pulled from thier face and they panic'ed because of the video camera's recording thier faces
thats when the police took those 3 protesters (Under cover police) down to get them out of there ... by the way... they (The under cover police) were inciting violance against the peaceful protesters
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08-24-2007, 07:07 PM #4
Here's more on the story:
"Ye Shall Know Them By Their Shoes"
Police Accused Of Using Provocateurs
"Ye Shall Know Them By Their Shoes"
Canadian Press
OTTAWA - Protesters are accusing police of using undercover agents to provoke violent confrontations at the North American leaders' summit in Montebello, Que.
Such accusations have been made before after similar demonstrations but this time the alleged "agents provocateurs" have been caught on camera.
A video, posted on YouTube, shows three young men, their faces masked by bandannas, mingling Monday with protesters in front of a line of police in riot gear. At least one of the masked men is holding a rock in his hand.
The three are confronted by protest organizer Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. Coles makes it clear the masked men are not welcome among his group of protesters, whom he describes as mainly grandparents. He urges them to leave and find their own protest location.
Coles also demands that they put down their rocks. Other protesters begin to chime in that the three are really police agents. Several try to snatch the bandanas from their faces.
Rather than leave, the three actually start edging closer to the police line, where they appear to engage in discussions. They eventually push their way past an officer, whereupon other police shove them to the ground and handcuff them.
Late Tuesday, photographs taken by another protester surfaced, showing the trio lying prone on the ground. The photos show the soles of their boots adorned by yellow triangles. A police officer kneeling beside the men has an identical yellow triangle on the sole of his boot.
Kevin Skerrett, a protester with the group Nowar-Paix, said the photos and video together present powerful evidence that the men were actually undercover police officers.
"I think the circumstantial evidence is very powerful," he said.
The three do not appear to have been arrested or charged with any offence.
Police confirm that only four protesters were arrested during the summit - two men and two women. All have been charged with obstruction and resisting arrest.
Veteran protester Jaggi Singh, who is helping to circulate the video as widely as possible, said all four of those arrested are known to organizers and are genuine protesters.
"But we see very clearly in that video three (other) men being arrested . . . How do (police) account for these three people being taken in, being arrested? Where did they go?" Singh said.
"I have no hesitation in saying they were police agents . . . and they were caught red-handed."
Singh, a member of the Montreal-based No One is Illegal, believes the agents were meant to provoke a confrontation and give the police an excuse to use some of their "toys," such as tear gas and rubber bullets.
"To a certain extent it's self-fulfilling logic. You provide police with this kind of equipment and they end up using it and one way to justify it is to plant some people that toss a rock or two."
Neither the RCMP nor the Surete du Quebec would comment on the video or even discuss generally whether they ever use the tactic of employing agents provocateurs.
"I cannot answer your question because I don't have the information," said Const. Kane Kramer, a spokesman for the RCMP at the summit.
http://www.wtprn.com/Provocateurs.html
The video can also be seen at this site.
Here is the link for youtube, I was told it was taken down because it was too violent, but it is still there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow
Busted!!!
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08-25-2007, 12:22 AM #5Police said the three undercover officers were only at the protest to locate and identify non-peaceful protesters in order to prevent any incidents.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-25-2007, 10:34 PM #6
What it all truly sounds like to me is that the police and those elites, needed to have an excuse to move forward with potential laws that would make ANY protestors no different that terrorists. When the two sides, who usually oppose each other, were there actually in agreement, then it appears "someone" wanted it to look like they were trouble.
BTW, also the peaceful protest is actually bad PR for such a secretative meeting, they had to make the protestors look bad. Get the heat off of what the actual summit was about."In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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08-26-2007, 09:18 AM #7
This reminds me of how the CIA put agitators in the civil rights marches in Memphis the day before Dr. King was shot. While the opposition gets more violent and our side sticks to our guns of peaceful protest don't be surprised that they don't do it again here to us to make us look bad. Looks like they are afraid that we might be onto something and want to discredit us.
I am glad they caught these guys and I'm esp. glad that those in Canada and Mexico are as much against this as we are. In fact I'd like to see a movement to discontinue NAFTA and put a stop to the whole thing. As one sign I read at one of the protests in Canada "SPP is NAFTA on Steroids"
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08-26-2007, 01:11 PM #8
I hope this has put a chill in those who would try to make claims against the Minuteman and other peaceful groups. The video camera and YouTube are dangerous to undercover anything any more. I will say the US undercover is far more intelligent than that. They aren't going to be wearing anything police issue on an undercover assignment.
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08-26-2007, 03:25 PM #9
I do think they will get more subversive as time goes on, they will not make the same mistakes again when it comes to police issued garments.
Although I abhor the anarchists, but I think that any government agency wanting a reason to discredit us, will use this dislike our groups and theirs (the anarchist types) have for each others beliefs against us and try to pit us against each other.
We need to find a way to be cohesive with ALL others in this fight as if we can't it will be the "iceberg" that will sink us all.
I say, if we can agree on nothing else between us, we need to agree on this, fight it, win, then part ways.
However, on the flip side of this, once they realize their traditional subversive tactics do not work anymore, who knows what they will then resort to, to silence all of us."In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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