Thread: Mexican Army, Police Ignore Border

NOTE older article, but I could find no archive of this one on ALIPAC, and it is a good read. NOTE talk is starting up about 6400 mx troops being placed on the border NOW to "fight" drug trafficing. Coincidence, I think not!!


http://www.vdare.com/francis/border_problems.htm

Abolishing America (contd.): Mexican Army, Police Ignore Border
By Sam Francis

If it's war you want, forget Afghanistan and the "Axis of Evil" invented by the president's speechwriters and take a look at our dear amigo to the south, Mexico.

Last year, according to documented reports of the U.S. Border Patrol, Mexican troops and police officers crossed into United States territory at least 23 times. Since the Bush administration seems to be silent about and indifferent to these invasions, Rep. Tom Tancredo, by far the most courageous critic of mass immigration now in public life, has demanded an explanation from the Mexican government.

Don't bet your tamales he'll get a serious one.

The explanation Mr. Tancredo does get from Mexico is that the incursions were in pursuit of drug smugglers. "The troops are fighting against drugs," a Mexican government official told the Washington Times last week, "and sometimes they get lost in those areas--there is no clear marking for the border." [Mexican soldiers in border crossings Washington Times May 13, 2002]

Well, maybe sometimes they do. I guess you can't count on Mexican troops and police officers knowing where they are or being able to use maps, compasses and radios to find out.

But maybe sometimes they're not "fighting drugs" but smuggling them. That's what Mr. Tancredo, who visited the border region in April, found out.

U.S. Border Patrol agents "are reporting that they see people coming through with guns. The concern is that there are people coming through with arms, M-16s, protecting drug carriers," Mr. Tancredo says. "And they are not lost."

Mexicans covering for drug smugglers is not necessarily the issue, however. For several years now, Mexican troops seem to have waltzed into U.S. territory pretty much whenever and wherever they felt like it.

In March, the Border Patrol says, four Mexican troops carrying submachine guns and automatic rifles were detained when they encountered Border Patrol agents.

In October, 2000, 10 Mexican soldiers were reported to have fired on a U.S. air unit.

In March, 2000, two Mexican military vehicles allegedly on an anti-drug mission crossed the U.S. border and actually fired shots at Border Patrol agents.

Some of these incursions may indeed be accidents or the results of enforcement operations in uncertain territories. Then again, the fact is that Mexico really doesn't much care whether it's U.S. territory or not, since a great many Mexicans think the area belongs to them anyway. Given the vast immigration of Mexicans into the region, some day it will.

In 1997, the predecessor of current Mexican President Vicente Fox, Ernesto Zedillo, told Mexican nationals in Chicago, "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important--a very important--part of this." [RealAudio Sound Clip]

Just so. By encouraging the massive migration of its unwanted nationals into our country, Mexico constructs a population base that can eventually simply swallow the regions it lost in the Mexican-American War. Mr. Tancredo says Mexican officials told him Mexico views the Southwest United States and northern Mexico not "as two countries, but as 'one region.'"

Meanwhile, Mexican cops and troops can act as though the border doesn't really exist by crossing it whenever they feel like it and doing whatever they please, including firing on American government agents.

"These situations can be very difficult," a Border Patrol officer told the Times. "We are outgunned in these instances. They have automatic rifles, and we have handguns." Mexican military support for illegal drug smuggling, he said, is "a definite possibility." Aside from their profound patriotic attachment to the nation's lost territories, Mexican cops and soldiers are not exactly famous for their honesty.

The border incidents with Mexico are by no means new--I wrote columns about some of them as long as two years ago--but apparently neither the Clinton nor the Bush administration has done much about them. Mr. Tancredo has, at least to the extent that a congressman by himself can.

What should be done, now that the Border Patrol itself has confirmed that armed Mexican police and soldiers seem unable to stay out of a country that isn't theirs and where they have no business, is to deploy the U.S. Army to round up the illegal aliens and drug smugglers on our side of the border and to keep the Mexican army and police on theirs.

Almost certainly, the ulterior purpose of the military and police crossings is to habituate the U.S. government and its officials--not to mention American citizens--into thinking that areas that belong to the United States are really Mexican.

If so, a few shots from U.S. troops in the other direction might inform the Mexican military who it is who is really outgunned--and remind them of whose country they made the mistake of invading.

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May 20, 2002

The Border Patrol apprehended a few illegal aliens and then took them down to the border and dropped them off and told them to go home. Mr. Bush ..won't... build detention centers to house the illegal aliens so taking them back is the only other thing they can do. And they did.

A Mexican vigalante group came after the Border Patrolmen with weapons and tried to kill them.. chased them for a while, and finally threw it in. The authorities in that Mexican Town have told the Border Patrol NOT to return the illegal aliens. And I gather we don't now.

Facinating too.. the authorities told the Border Patrol to NOT arrest known illegal aliens in San Deigo. We put a storm of letters into Washington and up on the boards, and they reciended the order. But THAT particular incident was seen by somebody who gave a damn in Washington and did something about it. Not so much the presence of the articles on the forums... someone in Washington did something. And that, in my opinion, is the value of the forum: it can bring us forward to collective action.

Send a post card folks. Please.

The MMP will be treated as hostile and might even turn to all out war as Mexico demands they be allowed to invade the US.

Their troops are not there for "drug" interdiction. They are there for "gringo" interdiction.

We need MM on the border with 50 cals. Shoot the Mexican vehicles on our side of the border, disabling them. When Americans get a view of a number of Mexican military and police vehicles littering our side of the border maybe they might believe we are actually being invaded.

This article is going to go up on the Political Brigade!

Patriot.. the Mexican Army and the Federal Police are corrupt. Not crazy! Not only that, those people in Mexico are repremanded when something like that happens.

I don't have any interest in invading Mexico, and in fact, they are not going to go after the Minute Men if for no other reason than that there are so many law enforcement people in those areas. I doubt anyone will actually be carrying unless they are alone.. and frankly, if they are alone they are very foolish.

But when someone suggests we should invade, or mow the illegal down with machine guns, ALL of the propaganda put out by La Raza and MECHa starts increasing, and all of the propaganda that has been published is authenticated and in all probability, with a link to your post.

We are NOT fighting the poor people of Mexico in my opinion. We are fighting the people who smuggle narcotics by the ton, and people who smuggle high paying 'special' people up to the United States. And we badly need border enforcement to get that done.

We do want the illegal aliens returned. And for now, a border effort seems the only way. Military OBSERVERS on the border seems a better way. A better way yet is to stop the employers from hiring the illegal aliens. Watchman put an excellent article up by Barbara Jordan that tells us the direction to take.

Patriot, when you suggest machine guns, and harm to the compasenio of Mexico, I think you hurt our cause and you help La Raza and MECHa. Please don't do that.

Husker,

Good find!

But maybe sometimes they're not "fighting drugs" but smuggling them. That's what Mr. Tancredo, who visited the border region in April, found out.

Well, golly gee Billy Jean, whod'a thunk it??? Imagine that! Why .. I never! No, it just couldn't be true!



Perhaps Mexico should have LONG AGO been added to the "AXIS OF EVIL!" ... I personally am adding them now ... making mental and written note...

MEXICO IS PART OF THE AXIS OF EVIL!!!!!!