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    They sought citizenship, got walking papers

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    Illegal immigrant couple sue consultant, and win

    By Jose Luis Jiménez
    UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
    August 21, 2006

    VISTA – Although they were in the country illegally for many years, a Mexican couple who had planted roots in El Cajon sought to become citizens nearly six years ago.

    Elias and Martha Ventura's three children were born here. The couple pay taxes. He has a steady job, she frequently volunteers at their children's schools. They consider themselves part of the mainstream.
    In December 2000, they met Enrique Escobar, a Los Angeles man who operated a business that advised immigrants on how to obtain legal status. At a meeting at a Fallbrook home, where dozens of others waited to meet Escobar, the consultant promised to put the couple on the path to citizenship, Elias Ventura said.

    The result was the opposite. They now face deportation.

    Unbeknown to them, their case was presented in March 2001 by attorneys hired by Escobar as a request for political asylum.

    An immigration judge rejected the petition in October 2004. The Venturas were given 60 days to leave the country. While the decision is being appealed, they are allowed to remain here.

    Instead of staying in the shadows, the couple sued Escobar in Vista Superior Court for fraud, and last month won a $415,000 judgment.

    The verdictcame from a predominantly white jury in an area of the county that elected Brian Bilbray to Congress on a platform of cracking down on illegal immigration. The Venturas see the judgment as proof that everyone is equal under the law in this country.

    Escobar “did something wrong to us, so we are going to defend ourselves,” said Ventura, 40, in an interview. “Afterward, some of the jurors told us that they hope the verdict will help in the immigration case.”

    The Venturas said they also had filed a complaint with the District Attorney's Office. An office spokeswoman declined to say this month whether the case was being investigated.

    Escobar's attorney, Timothy Noon of San Diego, maintains that his client did nothing wrong. But Noon is negotiating with the Venturas' attorney, Barbara Strickland, in an effort to reduce the judgment in return for Escobar's dropping his right to an appeal.

    “Mr. Escobar provided nonlegal services to the Venturas in connection with their immigration matter,” said Noon, whose client testified during the two-week trial. “The evidence presented at trial was insufficient to support that charge of fraud.”

    Asylum is one of several scams in which immigrants are promised citizenship for a price but instead run afoul of immigration law, said Jorge Vargas, a law professor at the University of San Diego.

    “It's very tough right now to get a green card,” Vargas said. “The foreigner doesn't know anything. He just sees a green card.”

    The verdict is bittersweet because if the Venturas are deported – and they have a 95 percent chance of being sent back, their attorney said – they worry about their children, ages 12, 10 and 7.

    Even though they expect eventually to get a sizable judgment, the Venturas say they still would face challenges in Mexico. Elias Ventura wouldn't get the same pay he gets here installing window tinting on cars, he says. Their families in Mexico City and Sinaloa are barely able to support themselves and probably would ask them for help. Mexico is a foreign country to their children, who have never been there. Their uncertain future has led to many sleepless nights and strained the marriage – the result, they say, of trying to do the right thing.

    Escobar “destroyed our lives,” said Elias Ventura, sitting in the living room of the converted condominium he purchased with the help of documentation the consultant obtained for him.

    “I'm going to lose everything I've worked so hard for in this country,” he said. “My children are going to lose their future here. They don't know Mexico.”

    Strickland, the Venturas' attorney, said Escobar's methods were common in fraud perpetrated against immigrants.

    The Fallbrook home was used by Escobar as a satellite office, with the owners keeping an appointment calendar for him, according to trial testimony.

    The Venturas trusted Escobar because they filled out official government documents and quickly received a temporary green card, which is standard in a political asylum application.

    But the Venturas were not politically or religiously persecuted in Mexico, Strickland said, and they do not fear being killed if they return, which are the main grounds for granting asylum.

    The immigration lawyer is appealing on the grounds that deporting the Venturas would cause a severe hardship to their young American children.

    Strickland admits it's a long shot – only 4,000 such appeals are granted annually across the country – but it is the only chance the Venturas have.

    When the couple first met with Escobar in 2000 to legalize their status, there was a good chance they would have been granted work permits, Strickland said.

    The law then allowed employers to solicit green cards for employees in jobs for which there were not enough Americans to do the work, Strickland said. Congress has since changed the law.

    “People who are undocumented are not without rights,” Strickland said. “Make sure you are dealing with an attorney.”

    Elias Ventura said he sneaked into the United States in 1989 by running through the hills to the east of the San Ysidro border crossing. Martha Ventura entered the country several years later on a student visa that since has expired, she said.

    They married in 1995. They have remained law-abiding and said they have tried to give something back to the country that has given them so much. The Venturas just want an opportunity to become permanent residents, they say, and continue working toward the American dream.

    “I felt like I had a chain around my neck, holding me back,” said Elias Ventura, explaining what inspired him to seek citizenship. “We are just looking for a better life, a better future.”



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    “I'm going to lose everything I've worked so hard for in this country,” he said. “My children are going to lose their future here. They don't know Mexico.”
    Guess you should have thought about that before you came here illegaly.

    “I felt like I had a chain around my neck, holding me back,” said Elias Ventura, explaining what inspired him to seek citizenship. “We are just looking for a better life, a better future.”
    If this is true, then why can't anyone do it legally? I really wish an illegal alien could answer this.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Escobar “destroyed our lives,” said Elias Ventura, sitting in the living room of the converted condominium he purchased with the help of documentation the consultant obtained for him.
    How so? It sounds like you are much better off now than you were when you illegally entered the country. You've enjoyed the high-life through criminal activity, fraud, and deceit. Now it's time to come back down to reality. Face it, you are a criminal and deserve no sympathy!

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    The immigration lawyer is appealing on the grounds that deporting the Venturas would cause a severe hardship to their young American children.
    Bull Crap!

    Ignorance of the law is not a defense. All their problems stated when they broke American immigration laws by "by running through the hills to the east of the San Ysidro border crossing" and "entered the country several years later on a student visa that since has expired". They are criminal intruders with anchor babies.

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    Only in America

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    Although they were in the country illegally for many years, a Mexican couple who had planted roots in El Cajon sought to become citizens nearly six years ago.
    My hometown, El Cajon, CA, once a community in the United States of America, now a Colonia de Mexico thanks to wonderful people such as these. I invite you all to come visit my hometown and view the scenic sights, such as all the billboards in Spanish and the endless graffiti covering every exposed surface. Marvel at the vibrant diverse atmosphere when driving by the local welfare office, seeing all the cars with Mexico license plates in the parking lot. Enjoy peaceful nights, disturbed only by the sounds of gunfire, police sirens, helicopter rotors and Mariachi. Visit such memorable tourist attractions as the world famous check cashing/money transfer/pinata shop. And don't forget to stop by the local taco shop for a quick dose of TB or Hepatitis C, all at no extra charge. Come see all the wonderful sights in beautiful El Cajon, CA, where you can savor the charms of Los Angeles without ever leaving the United States.
    [b][i][size=117]"Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.â€

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    Enjoy peaceful nights, disturbed only by the sounds of gunfire, police sirens, helicopter rotors and Mariachi
    Reptile, that sounds more like Tijuana or Nogalez!!!

    That's very sad to hear.
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    Instead of staying in the shadows, the couple sued Escobar in Vista Superior Court for fraud, and last month won a $415,000 judgment.

    They should be able to make a very comfortable life for themselves, back in their home country.
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