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    City action no answer to immigration mess

    Libidiot left winger fishwrap wants Amnesty and says ther is no way to send the multi-millions of IAs home:


    November 20, 2007
    City action no answer to immigration mess

    The Des Moines City Council should not pursue the idea of prohibiting local police from conducting raids on illegal immigrants in Des Moines.

    America's immigration crisis is a national problem that Congress and the White House must address. Their failure last summer to pass comprehensive reform has made matters worse, but this issue cannot be resolved jurisdiction by jurisdiction.

    Instead of passing local ordinances, city officials across the country should pressure national leaders to put politics aside and reach a practical, humane agreement.

    The possibility of such a proposal was discussed with at least one City Council member, Christine Hensley, about six weeks ago, the Register reported Monday. Two immigration-rights groups have discussed the idea of an ordinance to ban city departments, including police, from conducting raids or inquiring about a person's immigration status.

    Numerous U.S. cities and counties have policies to protect undocumented immigrants, based on a list on the National Immigration Law Center's Web site. For example, a Durango, Colo., resolution says no city resources will be used to identify undocumented immigrants for the federal government unless a crime has been committed. And Cook County, Ill., adopted a resolution declaring itself a "sanctuary county" and prohibiting county employees "to the extent legally possible" from helping in the investigation of the citizenship status of county residents.

    It's generally a poor use of local law-enforcement resources to enforce federal immigration law. But it defies common sense and risks breaking the law for a city council to state that local officers must not cooperate in this regard with federal agents. Law-enforcement officers are sworn to uphold the law. There's no exemption for laws that a city council disagrees with.

    In May, the Register's editorial page called for a moratorium on immigration raids, which disrupt workplaces and tear families apart, saying it was a contradiction to deport the very people who stood to benefit from then-pending immigration reform.

    That reform effort must be resuscitated. And it still would be a humane decision to halt the raids, which amount to harassment for employees with legal status and terrorize people who have otherwise abided by the law after their illegal border crossing.

    Almost everyone recognizes that the United States will not return all illegal immigrants to their home countries. Setting aside how difficult it would be to find everyone or whether the public could stomach the photos of mass deportation, the country will not return all illegal immigrants to their home countries because they are important to this country's economy. The only reason such raids are conducted now is to appease fierce anti-immigration foes.

    So let's be realistic.

    It's time for comprehensive immigration reform that - in addition to secure borders - includes a flexible guest-worker program that protects worker rights, a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million people in the country without documentation who otherwise have good records, and higher immigration quotas that recognize the need for a larger U.S. work force and family reunification.
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    Why can't we deport 12 million illegal aliens?

    Mexico did.
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    Sanctuary city proposed for Des Moines (Network Against Human Trafficking, Christine Hensley)

    A very preliminary proposal to establish Des Moines, Iowa as a sanctuary city has been presented to Councilwoman Christine Hensley (link). It would seek to block that city from inquiring about someone's immigrations status or taking part in federal immigration raids. Hensley's position on the matter isn't clear, but she's at least naive enough to state who would profit from such a scheme:

    Hensley said the impetus for the ordinance is illegal immigrants who fear raids and do not come to work, incurring costs on their employers.

    She appears to have punted:

    "What I suggested to them is there has to be a lot of discussion about it and whether or not there's really a problem."

    The other councilmembers either couldn't be reached or said that haven't seen the plan. Two groups are pushing it, with "Alex Orozco, executive director of the Iowa-based Network Against Human Trafficking" refusing to name the other group. One might expect someone against human trafficking to oppose illegal immigration due to the fact that traffickers can take advantage of sanctuary policies and hide among illegal aliens, but apparently he has other goals.

    You can contact the mayor and council here: ci.des-moines.ia.us/mayor_council/message/index.htm

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    So let's be realistic.

    It's time for comprehensive immigration reform that - in addition to secure borders - includes a flexible guest-worker program that protects worker rights, a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million people in the country without documentation who otherwise have good records, and higher immigration quotas that recognize the need for a larger U.S. work force and family reunification.

    Realistic is that Comprehensive Immigration Reform is AMNESTY. A path to citizenship is AMNESTY. And that put illegal aliens ahead of the line.

    Enforcement is realistic. It works against employers, it works against illegals by deportation. That is what illegal immigration advocates do not want.
    Enforcement is the humane solution and justice for all legal immigrants that are here and those waiting in line to get here.

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    Almost everyone recognizes that the United States will not return all illegal immigrants to their home countries. Setting aside how difficult it would be to find everyone or whether the public could stomach the photos of mass deportation, the country will not return all illegal immigrants to their home countries because they are important to this country's economy. The only reason such raids are conducted now is to appease fierce anti-immigration foes.

    So let's be realistic
    That statemenmt is such a lie. Believe me, I could stomach a "mass deportation" happening right now. I would then know that my country is putting it's citizens first, and not pandering to the unjustified whims of illegal immigrants and their supporters. I would applaud all illegal immigrants being returned back to their home countries.

    Raids are not being conducted "to appease fierce anti-immigration foes". Raids and deportation are being conducted because it is UNLAWFUL to enter the U.S. illegally.

    THE WRITER NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND GET REAL! The MAJORITY of AMERICANS do not want AMNESTY.
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    November 20, 2007


    DM leaders: No sanctuary status

    By MELISSA WALKER
    REGISTER STAFF WRITER

    Des Moines City Councilwoman Christine Hensley said she would not support Des Moines becoming a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants.

    Hensley and City Manager Rick Clark spoke at a news conference this evening with the intention, they said, to set the record straight regarding the city’s position on illegal immigration.

    Hensley said, as part of her job as a council person, she was met with representatives of two immigration-rights groups that presented a plan that would block local city departments, including the police, from conducting raids on immigrants or inquiring about a person’s immigration status. The impetus for the plan was to create an ordinance to protect illegal immigrants who feared raids and do not come to work, which causes their employers to incur costs.

    Hensley said the conversation has “been completely blown out of proportion.â€
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