Takes Walmart how long to make $11 million?DID ANYONE GO TO JAIL?Quote:
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Takes Walmart how long to make $11 million?DID ANYONE GO TO JAIL?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mamie
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Originally Posted by rickesteves
I apologize ... Wal-Mart paid $11 million in civil fines and was not charged with criminal violations .... the contractors that actually hired the "illegal aliens" plead guilty to criminal charges and paid $4 million in fines
assistant secretary for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Michael J. Garcia, said
"We plan to use this settlement as a model for future cases and efforts in work-site enforcement"
People will pay fines and be glad to do so.Jail is something most people hate,even for 1 minute.
The Mexican man went to jail. That was allegedly under State law. Arrested for being Mexican.
That is worth some consideration in the light of the USC in itself. Would the policeman arrest me in New Hampshire because I am from Colorado? No. So the policeman has obviously traversed venues in the arrest inferring the complaint is coming from the United States, not New Hampshire.
Any attorney in a black robe will be fairly amused at the crosstalk. The policeman should have called in the feds who would have told him to leave the Mexican alone. Unlike Wal-Mart or whatever, I doubt the Mexican's pockets were deep enough to fleece.
The local municipal policeman has no authority to speak for the United States, or complain for the United States. The case should fall apart for lack of formation if the Mexican man does not cop a plea (plead guilty).
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. See waiver of tort. Settling a criminal indictment with a bill for monetary compensation.
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Originally Posted by DavidMerrill
a policeman could not arrest you for being in another state, because you are protected under the Constitution because "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states" -- an "illegal alien" is neither a citizen nor a "legal immigrant" so there is no privilege or immunity under the Constitution
under the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion" -- under their "republican form of government" it seems the state or local government can charge an "illegal alien" that is a criminal under federal law with trespassing and the federal government can't
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Originally Posted by rickesteves
the reason Wal-Mart wasn't charged for criminal violations was they said they didn' t know their 'subcontractors' had hired illegals ... but I wonder if the contractors themselves are going to have jail time ...
Don't you see? You are quoting the US Constitution.
A local police officer has no prosecution against Mexicans. He should have called the feds for an immigration problem. The policeman spoke for the United States; not New Hampshire. But he used the wrong body of law to prosecute for the United States. He used the State of New Hampshire's RSA 635.2.
In admiralty - the 2" gold fringes are the notice "law of the flag" criminal penalties may be applied to breach of contract. That is why neither the RSA or the USC Title 8 are law. They are just guidelines for civil complaints.Quote:
the reason Wal-Mart wasn't charged for criminal violations was they said they didn' t know their 'subcontractors' had hired illegals ... but I wonder if the contractors themselves are going to have jail time ...
I am not familiar with the case. But it is likely since Wal-Mart was able to fork out large amounts of cash to settle, nobody gets jailed. The contractors are workers like you and me. They will likely be left alone. The Wal-Mart settlement alleviated pursuit. There is an overriding penumbra of fiduciary responsibility - jailing or fining productive contractors is unproductive.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Mamie,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mamie
I believe a much more sinister reason exists for Wal-Mart not being charged with criminal conduct?
Did you know they contribute to La Raza? Did you know our current attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, is a card-carrying member of a La Raza affiliate and he had the outright nerve to thank La Raza in a speech to the group for helping him along the way. Search La Raza or Gonzales and you'll find several interesting posts that will probably make you :evil: as heck!
We not only are being invaded from south of the border by the poorest of the poor, but we are being invaded in the "upper ranks" as well and that makes me :evil: :!:
that's the part I don't get -- there is no Constitutional provision to protect "illegal invaders" from state or local laws ...Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidMerrill
It is becoming clear to me why I am so annoying to some of the people here. I have been trying to equip you with an accurate system model and you are just ventilating. For instance the above clip does nothing to invoke anger in me. It is just the way big business works.Quote:
As Texas Supreme Court Justice
GONZALES DOES ENRON'S BIDDING: As an elected member of the Texas Supreme Court, "Enron and Enron's law firm were Gonzales's biggest contributors," giving him $35,450 in 2000. Overall, Gonzales raked in $100,000 from the energy industry. In May 2000, "Gonzales was author of a state Supreme Court opinion that handed the energy industry one of its biggest Texas legal victories in recent history." Since Bush brought him into the White House, Gonzales has worked doggedly to keep secret the details of energy task force meetings held by Vice President Cheney. [New York Daily News, 2/2/02]
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President/businessman
Examine George Walker's face while he is digesting the second airplane attack on the World Trade Center. Ignore the narrator's speculations about what he is thinking. To me, he is calculating - like a businessman. He is making entry of the new development into a larger business plan.
My concern is that you must drop all the emotionalism to get a picture of the system(s) before you can be effective. Of course the Internet is a great place to ventilate. Mr. Magoo threatened to erase every Post I have made here, simply because I am not spouting the 'party line' as he understands it.
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. Mamie. That is why the policeman was required to call the feds. Now as a private party or the New Hampshire attorney general could sue the Mexican in federal court under this Title 8 provision. But that is not going to happen. Earlier I kept bringing up these "illegal immigrants" are collecting valid claims on (trade) the account deficit. There is no federal cause against them for being here. Attorneys always go for the deep pockets like Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart simply got caught on the wrong side of Title 8 policy guidelines for a civil suit. Since they could not argue their way out of it, they settled. It is likely that the contractors still have those same foreign employees.
Understand I am just a guy out there with a keyboard and probably too much time on my hands. But I throw my two cents in that this will go away and people will be wiser than to try to prosecute misusing improper laws while crosstalking a complaint into somebody else's mouth. In this case a municipal police chief grabbing revised state statutes to complain about a Mexican man for the United States. It is not likely to get into any court. Unless the man plead out guilty and paid the fine it is already history. David Brooks has likely been told to leave the whole mess be. He has other stories to pursue I would hope.Quote:
From the article:
Immigration law is generally a federal matter that doesn’t come under the jurisdiction of local police departments. But Chamberlain has often expressed frustration with the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the past.
It’s not clear whether courts will allow police to prosecute people for crossing international borders by using a law more commonly applied to domestic disputes. Because Ramirez was not indoors, the criminal trespass is a violation, a level of severity less than a misdemeanor. (emphasis mine)