Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

Updated: Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 10:08 PM MST
Published : Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 9:24 PM MST

PHOENIX - Some Republican lawmakers in Arizona want to deny automatic citizenship to children born of illegal immigrants. We wanted to talk to someone who could be directly affected by this legislation. A woman who is 8 months pregnant and in the country illegally shared her story with FOX 10.

We'll call this undocumented expectant mother "Laura." She says her children deserve to be Americans, and she feels they shouldn't be penalized because she chose to cross the border illegally.

Laura says people like her have no choice but to come to America. In Mexico, there is no work, and it is dangerous.

She says every child deserves an opportunity better than that.

Laura came to the U.S. years ago by herself. She worked in hopes of becoming self-sufficient, and later fell in love. Her first-born son is 7 years old and a U.S. citizen. So is her husband.

Laura's greatest fear is to be separated from her family.

Supporters of the proposal argue that the wording of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to people born in the U.S. who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of this country, doesn't apply to the children of illegal immigrants because such families don't owe sole allegiance to the U.S.

Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants, won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes, and will be declared unconstitutional by the courts.

The proposal aims to get a court to rule that a child born in the U.S. is a citizen only if one of the parents is a U.S. citizen or a legal immigrant. That means that in Laura's case, supposing the bill does become law, her unborn daughter would be exempt -- because Laura's husband is legal.

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Laura's greatest fear is to be separated from her family.

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You should have thought of that before you jumped the fence. You married a U.S. citizen in the hopes of gaining legal residency.

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Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants, won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes, and will be declared unconstitutional by the courts.

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Again, trying to confuse "immigrant" will "illegal alien." It won't work.

I thought if one parent was an American citizen, the child could claim American citizenship.

Isn't that how Obama got to be a US citizen??

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Originally Posted by Bobby12

I thought if one parent was an American citizen, the child could claim American citizenship.

Isn't that how Obama got to be a US citizen??

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Both parents can be illegal, but if the child is born here, the child is granted automatic, birth right citizenship, per the 14 amendment of the Constitution.

I think we need to deny hozpitalization for illegal births. A pregnacy isn't emergency care. The Mom had 9 months to plan this birth. The problem, is they would do it any way. On the north bank of the Rio Grande, in the park, fire staition, at their illegal place of employment.

I support a CHANGE to birthright citizenship. At one time, I thought it made this country better than others. Unfortunately, with so many taking advantage of it, the country is being destroyed by it.

Deport this Mother the week she is due, or walk here across the border when the labor pains start.

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Originally Posted by Bobby12

I thought if one parent was an American citizen, the child could claim American citizenship.

Isn't that how Obama got to be a US citizen??

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"The proposal aims to get a court to rule that a child born in the U.S. is a citizen only if one of the parents is a U.S. citizen or a legal immigrant. That means that in Laura's case, supposing the bill does become law, her unborn daughter would be exempt -- because Laura's husband is legal."

Just hogwash story about another lawbreaker that needs 30+ days in
tent city then a swift deportation.

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Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants, won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes, and will be declared unconstitutional by the courts.

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Wrong, the proposal will make a great dent in our immigration woes - especially financially and greatly curtail the criminal gang element as our law enforcement will then not be fighting such a losing battle.

Now, that said, I just have to sigh regarding the dangerous part of living in Mexico. I would not want that either but to call the most welcoming people in the world mean-spirited... well, it just doesn't help your case. What these people have failed and still fail to understand is that there is a finite amount of $$ that taxpayers have to give! We are not money machines these people seem to think we are. And that the lawlessness that is Mexico has now permeated into the U.S. and our citizens are going to fight back.

It is a sad situation that has taken decades to grow to where it is now. If only the Mexicans had stayed in their own country and not allowed it to be taken over by souless criminals! And now, the Mexican males run and leave the women to take a stand!

As has been said here often in this forum, if the 20,000 (probably more) illegal aliens here in this country along with the good Mexican people still there, especially the so-called macho men would take a stand against the crime lords once and for all, perhaps (and I know that is a scary thing to comtemplate), perhaps they would take THEIR beloved country back enough to make it a reasonably safe place to live again. But they will have to get angry enough and stop running to do so. Thousands and thousands of Americans fought and died to make this country one that people from all over the world envy. And hopefully that doesn't have to happen again...

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Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

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sure it does, citizenship in YOUR home Country not mine!

"They should deport her because she's stupid, and she's just pandering for all her illegal relatives!"

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Originally Posted by jamesw62

Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

Updated: Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 10:08 PM MST
Published : Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 9:24 PM MST

PHOENIX - Some Republican lawmakers in Arizona want to deny automatic citizenship to children born of illegal immigrants. We wanted to talk to someone who could be directly affected by this legislation. A woman who is 8 months pregnant and in the country illegally shared her story with FOX 10.

We'll call this undocumented expectant mother "Laura." She says her children deserve to be Americans, and she feels they shouldn't be penalized because she chose to cross the border illegally.

Laura says people like her have no choice but to come to America. In Mexico, there is no work, and it is dangerous.

She says every child deserves an opportunity better than that.

Laura came to the U.S. years ago by herself. She worked in hopes of becoming self-sufficient, and later fell in love. Her first-born son is 7 years old and a U.S. citizen. So is her husband.

Laura's greatest fear is to be separated from her family.

Supporters of the proposal argue that the wording of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to people born in the U.S. who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of this country, doesn't apply to the children of illegal immigrants because such families don't owe sole allegiance to the U.S.

Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants, won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes, and will be declared unconstitutional by the courts.

The proposal aims to get a court to rule that a child born in the U.S. is a citizen only if one of the parents is a U.S. citizen or a legal immigrant. That means that in Laura's case, supposing the bill does become law, her unborn daughter would be exempt -- because Laura's husband is legal.

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the American did not Just get off the Boat girl . & your baby don't Deserves citizen ship at all
so for Get about it go back the hell home Toot . you Illegal Immigrant must think the American don't know what the hell is going On well think again you married a guy or a girl . & say . yes im a citizen Now it don 't work that way don't work that way any more toot
NO Amnesty :twisted: :twisted:

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In Mexico, there is no work, and it is dangerous.

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The current unemployment rate in Mexico is about half that of the USA's.

BIRTH CONTOL!!!!

Why should American's pay for her litters.

I really wish this would get rushed to the SC for a ruling. While it faces many challenges from the political field which includes political judges the law is very clear and I have yet to hear one ounce of legal evidence to support citizenship to illegal babies. Every thing they have on their side is just sob stories and how its so hard back in mexico.

She is right though, every child has the right to aim for a better life. Its the parents duties to do that. However its the parents duties to do that in their home country. Fight for making Mexico a better place. Its only through being tempered in the heat of conflict that people rise above to become better then they were. That then gets passed onto future generations. However Mexicans never had that and without that they will continue to be a poor and downtrodden country and people not deserving freedom and liberty.

Its ones duty to their country to fight for a better future, we are doing that right here and through the US political system. They have aren't doing it for their country and thus aren't in a position to ever make the US a better place, not in a thousand years.

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"Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship."

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I think the only thing the two of you deserves is a long bus or plane ride back to where ever you came from. Have a nice trip and hasta luego!

Mexico is so corrupted and injustice, those people have no idea what Law Enforcement means. They think they can live any way they want to live here in America because they have abused this Country for such a long time, without facing penalties for their criminal actions.

What some of us Americans have done is the same as leaving all U.S. prison doors open and tell the incarcerated offenders, you are free to go and come as you like, no one will pursue legal actions against any of you. 8O ...Frankly, I think illegal aliens will soon start a war with legal citizens because they have nothing to gain going back to their homelands, and as we have learned from seeing videos and news reporting of crime sprees in Mexico those people are capable of performing any kind of criminal act.

Well said ReformUSA.

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She is right though, every child has the right to aim for a better life.

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Albeit they do not have right to steal from our children's aim for a better life. Sorry, but reality is reality. And the citizens of one's country come before the citizens of another here illegally.

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Fight for making Mexico a better place. Its only through being tempered in the heat of conflict that people rise above to become better then they were. That then gets passed onto future generations. However Mexicans never had that and without that they will continue to be a poor and downtrodden country and people not deserving freedom and liberty.

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Its ones duty to their country to fight for a better future.

Amen. Thousands of Americans died for this country against tyranny. It takes guts to be willing to die.

This woman has been here over 8 years and is not become legal, but she is married to a citizen. I hear stories like these and all I can think is a sham marriage or that she is unqualified to become a citizen for health or legal reasons.

These people make me so mad. All the phony justification for their behavior and putting all of that on their kids.

Dixie

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Better Deport her ASAP before she drops another anchor/liability on the heads of American taxpayers..

I guess people in other Countries are just shaking their heads and are trying to figure out why we Americans allow our Country to be invaded by unlawful persons as it is currently. And I often wonder the same thing.

That is correct Paul!

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Originally Posted by jamesw62

Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

Updated: Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 10:08 PM MST
Published : Thursday, 27 Jan 2011, 9:24 PM MST

PHOENIX - Some Republican lawmakers in Arizona want to deny automatic citizenship to children born of illegal immigrants. We wanted to talk to someone who could be directly affected by this legislation. A woman who is 8 months pregnant and in the country illegally shared her story with FOX 10.

We'll call this undocumented expectant mother "Laura." She says her children deserve to be Americans, and she feels they shouldn't be penalized because she chose to cross the border illegally.

Laura says people like her have no choice but to come to America. In Mexico, there is no work, and it is dangerous.

She says every child deserves an opportunity better than that.

Laura came to the U.S. years ago by herself. She worked in hopes of becoming self-sufficient, and later fell in love. Her first-born son is 7 years old and a U.S. citizen. So is her husband.

Laura's greatest fear is to be separated from her family.

Supporters of the proposal argue that the wording of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to people born in the U.S. who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of this country, doesn't apply to the children of illegal immigrants because such families don't owe sole allegiance to the U.S.

Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants, won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes, and will be declared unconstitutional by the courts.

The proposal aims to get a court to rule that a child born in the U.S. is a citizen only if one of the parents is a U.S. citizen or a legal immigrant. That means that in Laura's case, supposing the bill does become law, her unborn daughter would be exempt -- because Laura's husband is legal.

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WOMAN, YOUR CHILD DOES NOT DESERVE U.S. CITIZENSHIP ANY MORE THAN YOU DO :!: I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING DEPORTED SINCE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE IN THE SHADOWS "NOT" AND ONLY COME OUT TO GIVE A STUPID INSANE INTERVIEW SUCH AS THIS ONE. NO JOBS IN MEXICO, WELL I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU HONEY, THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE FOR U.S. CITIZENS BECAUSE YOU ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE THE ONLY BEING HIRED. DO YOU FOR ONE MINUTE THINK THAT IS RIGHT :?: I DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR GOVERNMENTS WAY OF THINKING WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH A J-O-B, GO FIGURE :!:

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Originally Posted by nomas

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Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship

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sure it does, citizenship in YOUR home Country not mine!

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:lol: :lol: WAY TO GO NOMAS WAY TO GO :!:

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Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012

I really wish this would get rushed to the SC for a ruling. While it faces many challenges from the political field which includes political judges the law is very clear and I have yet to hear one ounce of legal evidence to support citizenship to illegal babies. Every thing they have on their side is just sob stories and how its so hard back in mexico.

She is right though, every child has the right to aim for a better life. Its the parents duties to do that. However its the parents duties to do that in their home country. Fight for making Mexico a better place. Its only through being tempered in the heat of conflict that people rise above to become better then they were. That then gets passed onto future generations. However Mexicans never had that and without that they will continue to be a poor and downtrodden country and people not deserving freedom and liberty.

Its ones duty to their country to fight for a better future, we are doing that right here and through the US political system. They have aren't doing it for their country and thus aren't in a position to ever make the US a better place, not in a thousand years.

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THEY ARE COWARDS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY BUT, THEY DON'T MIND COMING HERE ILLEGALLY AND MARCHING IN OUR STREETS MAKING THEIR DEMANDS OF THIS COUNTRY. NOW THAT IS WHAT BURNS ME EVEN MORE ABOUT THESE ILLEGAL ALIENS :!: AND WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO PROTEST IN OUR STREETS ANYWAY :?:

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Originally Posted by Pisces_2010

I guess people in other Countries are just shaking their heads and are trying to figure out why we Americans allow our Country to be invaded by unlawful persons as it is currently. And I often wonder the same thing.

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:roll: :evil: :roll: THEY ARE NOT ONLY SHAKING THEIR HEADS, THEY ARE ALSO LAUGHING AT THE BIG BAD SUPER POWER FOR ALLOWING THEIR COUNTRY TO BE INVADED BY "ILLEGAL ALIEN HISPANICS" MOSTLY FROM MEXICO. AND THEY ARE ALSO LAUGHING BECAUSE THE DOJ HAS FILED A LAW SUIT AGAINST ARIZONA AND, MEXICO AND OTHER LATIN COUNTRIES HAVE ALSO JOINED THAT SAME SUIT OF AMERICA. THIS IS SO SHAMEFUL :!:

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Originally Posted by Pisces_2010

Mexico is so corrupted and injustice, those people have no idea what Law Enforcement means. They think they can live any way they want to live here in America ........

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That IS the problem. Poop runs down hill. Mexico is corrupt to the core. They not only think they can live any way they want in America, they do live any way they want to in America. Given the opporturnity, they turn peaceful, respectable neighborhoods into gang graffiti, disabled car littered yards, boom box loud latino music, trashed neighborhoods. They are slowly but surely turning America into what they claim they are running from.

Illegal aliens with their children must be deported. We do not have to keep them here. THey do not obey our immigration laws. Deport them now.

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Originally Posted by jamesw62

We'll call this undocumented expectant mother "Laura." She says her children deserve to be Americans, and she feels they shouldn't be penalized because she chose to cross the border illegally.

Laura says people like her have no choice but to come to America. In Mexico, there is no work, and it is dangerous.

She says every child deserves an opportunity better than that.

Laura came to the U.S. years ago by herself. She worked in hopes of becoming self-sufficient, and later fell in love. Her first-born son is 7 years old and a U.S. citizen. So is her husband.

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I've got suggestion then Laura, don't have kids. This is certainly not an obligation in life. If you wanted to come to America and have kids in a safe place you could have do it legally. You do the crime, now it your turn to do the time. Hope you get deported very quickly and you kids and husband go with you.

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They are slowly but surely turning America into what they claim they are running from.

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They have become like spoiled children. They need to be "spanked" by enforcing our immigration laws and sent to their room, ie. their own country.

If her kids dad is in fact a US citizen, I'm not sure what she is worried about. As far as I have read, they are proposing that at least one parent has to be a US citizen. Something smells fishy.

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Originally Posted by thedramaofmylife

If her kids dad is in fact a US citizen, I'm not sure what she is worried about. As far as I have read, they are proposing that at least one parent has to be a US citizen. Something smells fishy.

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That was a pretty dumb statement by the author of the article. Currently, you are a citizen, if one parent is a citizen, even if born abroad. It's citizenship by birth/nationality. That also causes sham marriages. Illegal has a baby with a citizen and the kids can have dual citizenship, for instance, children of Mexicans born here are Mexican nationals when they turn 18.

Laura's kids are citizens, she is not. She made her mess.

Dixie

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That IS the problem. Poop runs down hill. Mexico is corrupt to the core. They not only think they can live any way they want in America, they do live any way they want to in America. Given the opportunity, they turn peaceful, respectable neighborhoods into gang graffiti, disabled car littered yards, boom box loud Latino music, trashed neighborhoods. They are slowly but surely turning America into what they claim they are running from."

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Adding to your true statements: They do not want to reside in Mexico; however, want to turn America into another Mexico. I think when illegal aliens invades other Countries unlawfully Governments of Countries illegals came from should send special forces to round up their people and give them jail sentences, along with hard labor prison camps duties. This will stop the invasions.

Laura should be departed, it will serve as a deterrent for any other Mexican immigrants who thinks having children in the U.S. will give them citizenship.

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Originally Posted by Pisces_2010

Laura should be departed, it will serve as a deterrent for any other Mexican immigrants who thinks having children in the U.S. will give them citizenship.

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As an adult, the anchor child can sponsor their family for immigration aka chain migration.

Dixie

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Originally Posted by thedramaofmylife

If her kids dad is in fact a US citizen, I'm not sure what she is worried about. As far as I have read, they are proposing that at least one parent has to be a US citizen. Something smells fishy.

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You know you've got a point there. How is it that her husband is a citizen and she is not via marriage :?: I can't help but wonder if he is a citizen :!: these people are not above lying and thats the truth.

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Originally Posted by thedramaofmylife

If her kids dad is in fact a US citizen, I'm not sure what she is worried about. As far as I have read, they are proposing that at least one parent has to be a US citizen. Something smells fishy.

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You know you've got a point there. How is it that her husband is a citizen and she is not via marriage :?: I can't help but wonder if he is a citizen :!: these people are not above lying and thats the truth.

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You cannot adjust status while one is in the US illegally. So she entered illegally and got married to a citizen. However she cannot gain legal status only a stay of deportation (least without Amnesty). She would have to return home and husband apply for a spousal visa however she would be banned from re-entry for 10 years. She could apply for a waiver do to children stressing hardship but immigration judges now are extremely strict as far as waivers in these cases as many just sneak in, then marry expecting a waiver so they can immediately apply for change of status and stay.

What needs to happen is start charging citizen spouses who have illegal alien spouses with harbouring and still deport with fining and putting spouses in jail as any should be who harbors an illegal.

My brother in law who works at one of the bridges in El Paso routinely sends pregnant women back across the bridge every chance he gets! However, I'm sure despite that, it's a drop in the bucket compared to those who do manage to cross over and drop their anchor babies. What really gets me is how the public hospital does nothing..zip...to stop them from having their babies here. They hide behind statements to the effect that they are not allowed to turn anyone away. Not sure I actually believe those statements.
When I didn't have insurance, the hospital had no problem letting me die in the car while waiting for my husband to plop down a hefty deposit before allowing me to be treated. I wasn't even allowed inside until that deposit was paid.

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Originally Posted by elpasoborn

My brother in law who works at one of the bridges in El Paso routinely sends pregnant women back across the bridge every chance he gets! However, I'm sure despite that, it's a drop in the bucket compared to those who do manage to cross over and drop their anchor babies. What really gets me is how the public hospital does nothing..zip...to stop them from having their babies here. They hide behind statements to the effect that they are not allowed to turn anyone away. Not sure I actually believe those statements.
When I didn't have insurance, the hospital had no problem letting me die in the car while waiting for my husband to plop down a hefty deposit before allowing me to be treated. I wasn't even allowed inside until that deposit was paid.

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The hospital does have to provide emergency services, but there is nothing saying they cannot report these people while they are sitting at the hospital for three days with their anchor babies. I am sure that word would get around about hospitals who turn these people in too. As a result these hospitals might be able to stay above water and not go bankrupt.