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    Voices of a New Movimiento!

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060619/lovato

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    article | posted June 1, 2006 (June 19, 2006 issue)
    Voices of a New Movimiento
    Roberto Lovato

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    US-born Latinos also feel Ramírez's urgency about organizing around immigration. Their ranks include teens and twentysomethings relatively new to politics, along with veterans like Wisconsin's Christine Neumann-Ortiz, who was influenced by several Latin American movements as well as the struggle against California's Proposition 187.

    "To see those thousands of people marching against Prop 187 was an inspiration," says Ortiz, who heads Voces de la Frontera, an immigrant worker center in the belly of the anti-immigrant beast, James Sensenbrenner's Milwaukee. "I was very impressed that there was that kind of response [to Prop 187]. We used that as a lesson," says Ortiz, who was one of the main organizers of marches of 30,000 and 70,000 people, some of the largest marches ever in a state with a storied progressive past.

    Ortiz was not caught off guard by the movimiento. "I'm happy to be alive to see this shift," she states from one of Voces's three offices in Wisconsin, "but I'm not at all surprised. We've been building up networks of people over many years."





    She and other activists point to years of service and advocacy on behalf of immigrants, which built up good will and trust in the community, as being defining factors in the ability to rally people into political action.

    Founded in Austin, Texas, with a mission to build solidarity between US and Mexican maquiladora workers following the signing of the NAFTA accords in nearby San Antonio in 1994, Voces de la Frontera embodies a local-global sensibility. Ortiz started the Milwaukee Voces in November 2001 in response to the growing needs of Milwaukee's fast-growing Latino immigrant population. Like the settlement houses and mutual aid societies and other organizations that supported German and other white European immigrant workers of previous, more progressive eras in Wisconsin and elsewhere, Voces provides a critical support structure for the mostly Mexican and Central American workers in the agricultural, hotel and restaurant, construction and manufacturing industries in HR 4437 country.


    Sensenbrenner "wants to leave a legacy. So did McCarthy. Immigrants in Wisconsin know his hypocrisy better than anyone," says Ortiz, whose German and Mexican immigrant heritage portends the not-so-distant future of once wholly white Wisconsin. "He is encroaching on his own base. Dairy farmers in his own district are revolting because he's attacking their economic base. This can't last in the long term," she says, as if eyeing developments in post-Prop 187 California, where short-term anti-immigrant backlash led to a longer-term movement that gave Los Angeles its first Latino (and progressive) mayor--and gave the movimiento a vision of its potential.

    Like organizers in Los Angeles, Chicago and other cities, Ortiz and Voces have built strong and deep relationships with the local Spanish-language media. But they're also keenly aware of who's leading the charge. "We had lists of more than 4,000 workers before the radio stations or Sensenbrenner came into the picture," Ortiz explains.

    As they continue to organize and lobby around the immigration debate in Congress, around the inevitable backlash at the local and state levels and around a more proactive agenda, Ortiz and many of the other leaders of the immigrant rights movement are keeping their eyes on a larger prize, beyond the issue of immigration. "We're going to change this country," she says, adding, "We've gained public sympathy for immigrants. We've gained recognition and power, and we are an inspiration to the larger movement for change." She is especially motivated when she describes the effect of the movimiento on the generations to come. Like the "Hmong students who went to a Sensenbrenner town hall meeting in South Alice [a Milwaukee suburb] and chanted 'Si se puede, Si se puede' at him." Asked if the backlash will damage the movimiento, Ortiz responds, "In the long run this will make us stronger and build our movement."
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    Scarey......and has been in place for awhile for this movement. Can the government be this blind to not know this was in the making a long time ago.?
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    . "We're going to change this country," she says, adding, "We've gained public sympathy for immigrants. We've gained recognition and power, and we are an inspiration to the larger movement for change." She
    I am constantly amazed at the statements made by these people. Had they kept their mouths shut maybe they might have pulled it off. they still may
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    The rhetoric that is employed by such people is narrow minded and lacks the whole truth, but that is typical of any group that refuses to accept the established system. Illegal aliens are not immigrants as we all know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanadu
    . "We're going to change this country," she says, adding, "We've gained public sympathy for immigrants. We've gained recognition and power, and we are an inspiration to the larger movement for change." She
    I am constantly amazed at the statements made by these people. Had they kept their mouths shut maybe they might have pulled it off. they still may
    their public sympathy is based upon ignorance. When you tell the public how these ILLEGALS, not immigrants, are stealing ID's, social security numbers, receiving public benefits, etc., that sentiment changes to outrage and unbelief.

    Furthermore, the federal courts overturning Proposition 187 was a violation of the Constitution -- NOT a victory based upon the rule of law.

    Everything they do and everything they achieve is based upon violations of the Constitution and the laws of the United States.
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    If there is any "public sympathy", it's not coming from the legal American citizens. It's coming from themselves for themselves.
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    Christine Neumann-Ortiz
    this isn't the American woman married to a Latin American who was killed in one of those countries, is it? The woman was down there on a long hunger strike until she'd found that he'd been murdered?
    {her name is so familiar but I can't quite place it}
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