Thread: Clinton health plan for Americans only

Clinton health plan for Americans only

By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer 44 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that immigrants living in the U.S. illegally would not be covered by her proposed universal health care plan.


The New York senator said she supports basic health services for illegal immigrants, including hospitalization and treatment of acute conditions. But she said the magnitude of the nation's health care challenge means her universal coverage proposal would not cover the 12 million people living in the country illegally.

"People who are here legally deserve some better treatment and acceptance in the law than people who are not here legally," she said. "These are hard choices."

As for ways to reduce pressure on the overburdened health care system, she said she could envision using "carrots and maybe a few sticks" to motivate people to lose weight and make other behavioral changes that could help.

Speaking at a forum sponsored by several health care organizations, Clinton addressed a range of questions on the future of Social Security and Medicare, racial and gender disparities in health care coverage and ways to encourage medical students to become primary care doctors rather than specialists.

Most of all, there were questions about her proposed $110 billion health care plan and how it would bring order to a fractured system.

She didn't directly address questions of whether smokers or obese people should pay more for health care but said as president she would use the "bully pulpit" to encourage healthy lifestyle choices, particularly among young people.

Clinton, who has publicly fretted about her weight, drew laughs as she recalled competing for presidential physical fitness awards as a child.

"We were rounded up and taken to the gym where we had to jump and run. I was horrible at it. They kept telling me to run and I'd say, 'I'm running,'" she said. "It was a very strong message to children that the president cares about your health care. I personally believed Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy were sitting in the White House signing my certificate."

The former first lady also spoke about her failure to enact universal coverage during her husband's presidency, assuring audience members that she would not repeat the mistakes that doomed that effort.

Among other things, she said it had been a mistake to try and draft the plan out of the White House, and that as president she had no intention producing the specific legislation for Congress to consider.

"I'm setting goals for the country. But I know how important it is to work out the details in consultation with the Congress," she said.

Clinton scoffed at suggestions from Republican presidential rivals that her plan is little more than socialized medicine, calling them "old, tired accusations." But she acknowledged the need to bring a broad spectrum of interests together in order to enact her proposed plan.

"I think we'll have a very strong coalition that will be able to make the case to Congress," she said. "Nobody will come out of this process with 100 percent of what he or she wants."

Clinton also said the task would be made easier if more Democrats were elected to the Senate in 2008.

"It's one of my highest priorities," she said.

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What a disaster this woman is.. and what makes her think that we're so dumb we don't know what her plan is if she is elected President? Of course her Socialized Healthcare is not for illegals because she will grant amnesty and legalize every illegal in the U.S.... there.. they will all be covered.

Since she plans to give amnesty to the Illegal Aliens her point of saying they will not be covered is meaningless........

Clinton also said the task would be made easier if more Democrats were elected to the Senate in 2008.

Roughly translated: "I am the Queen liberal. Your political and social views will be assimilated and adapt to service me. Resistance is futile."

This pathetic socialist, would cover every illegal alien, in a New York minute.....
And this scum knows damn well it's not 12 million illegals.....a recent study found that there may be as many as 39 million illegals within our borders.

Originally Posted by USPatriot

Since she plans to give amnesty to the Illegal Aliens her point of saying they will not be covered is meaningless........

Good point. And don't believe her for one moment. I would venture to say that her pollsters have told her she would have an easier time selling her health care scheme at this time if it didn't cover illegal aliens; so she is saying this right now to head off criticism in this regard.

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Call the Senate: NO Dream Act or AgJOBS Amnesty !

Shillery is SUCH A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

She has already PUBLICLY STATED she would start HER FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE to get CITIZENSHIP FOR ALL THE ILLEGALS.

This woman is so crooked, it is a wonder she can stand upright!!!!!

OR EVEN MORE SINISTER....NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF IDENTITY OR OF CITIZENSHIP. AND NO ONE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ASK. NOT ONLY WOULD ILLEGALS BE COVERED...BUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM WOULD BE UNDERFUNDED. FUNDING WOULD BE BASED ON LEGAL RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS. BUT ILLEGALS WOULD SLIP IN BY THE TRUCKLOAD. IT WOULD BE WORSE THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. BECAUSE HOSPITALS WOULD NOT HAVE THE PROPER FUNDING.

NO. IF WE HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY. OTHERWISE HEALTH CARE TO CITIZENS WOULD BE SUBSTANDARD.

AND THEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF AMNESTY. I WONT EVEN GO THERE. NO.

I DONT WANT HILLARY FOR PREZ ANYWAY. I DONT WANT HER. I DONT THINK HER PROMISES TO FIX HEALTHCARE ARE SINCERE.

I think she flip flops more than John Kerry did in the last election. It is getting to be so crazy now. I fell and dislocated my shoulder. I wasn't near a Kaiser facility so had to go the Emergency room at another facility. They told me to sit down and support my arm. Finally, four hours later, they called me back into a room. Two hours later they said they were sending me to Xray. I couldn't believe the Hispanics that they were calling before me that had just been there maybe an hour. Six hours later I walked out. I had my husband stop at Walgreen's and buy a sling. The next morning I went to my regular facility. As we were getting into the car in the parking lot two cars pulled up. In one car 6 piled out and the other car had 7.

All of this is going on without health care. Just think what it will be like when they do get health care.

Oh by the way, my check-in time was at least 30 minutes. I had to give them so much information, I am surprised I didn't have to give them my oldest son's birth weight.

I have not received a bill from the hospital yet. That could be interesting since I didn't check out.

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