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    (Lib view):Complexities of our immigration policy-SusanMille

    Complexities of our immigration policy


    Karen Meyerson, Paths to Peace

    Published Friday, July 25, 2008

    Of the many difficulties facing this country, perhaps the one that causes the most passion on both sides of the issue is illegal immigration.

    It is a complex problem with complex solutions. Many have reduced it to a simple equation: Illegal immigrants are causing all of our economic problems. This simplistic scapegoating is neither accurate nor helpful. Many of our problems can be traced to the cost of the Iraq war, out of control gas prices, dependence on foreign oil, corporate welfare, tax breaks for the wealthy, and irresponsible lending, none of which have any connection to illegal immigration.

    Many employer groups in Arizona, California, Oklahoma, Colorado, Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, Massachusetts and others are lobbying for less stringent laws and penalties against companies with long established and responsible histories. They realize they do need these workers and also want to be on the on the right side of the law, as per Tamar Jacoby, president of the new Federation Immigration Works USA.

    These business owners realize that if mass roundups cause business failures that many American employees will be out of work. As per The Colorado Employers for Immigration Reform, they are asking lawmakers on the state and federal level to find a more economically viable solution.

    Karen Meyerson

    Leading mayors from Los Angeles, Seattle, and Oakland plan to introduce a resolution denouncing the workplace raids. Resolution No. 52 emphasizes the damage done to local economies by such raids and calls upon the government to focus its enforcement efforts on businesses that actually exploit workers through violations of wage and safety laws rather than responsible employers who contribute to their communities. Widespread raids also do not act as deterrents as desire for work overcomes fear of deportation. Unless raids are coupled with comprehensive immigration reform that includes a pathway to legal status, these raids will remain ineffective.

    On May 12, 2008, the largest workplace immigration raid in U.S. History took place in Postville, Iowa. Elected officials, community members and religious leaders reveal that the raid tore the community apart. Mayor Bob Penrod told the Des Moines Register, “We didn’t need this. This literally blew our town away.â€

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    It is a complex problem with complex solutions.

    It is a complex problem with complex solutions. Every single person I have met who is pro illegal immigration or leans that way uses the exact same statement.
    When pressed as to the complexity, I get answers that I am sure many of you have heard--"It is impossible to remove 12 million people". I do not always engage in a discourse. I just simply say, "They are here illegally, they need to go. This is the USA and we can solve any problem."
    To me the "complex problem" answer is similar to "Let's not drill. It will take 10 years to get the oil." When I state that, even if that were so, not drilling for, say 5 more years moves the production of oil out to 15 years", gets blank stares.

    I am at the stage that I no longer care what the motivations for illegal immigration is. I care not if it is sympathy for the plight of the needy, sincere religious beliefs about helping our fellow man, greedy profiteers seeking low income, low skill workers or the braying mantra, "We are a country of immigrants". When the country is lost, it is lost. It matters not whether it is by good intentions or evil.

    This woman. Karen Meyerson is the worst of the worst. A person whose own good heart would give away all that many of us have worked for to satisfy her selfish belief---"[i]Let us join together in honoring our shared history of immigration. We are all the beneficiaries of ancestors who took the risk of coming here for a better life. Let us use our humanity, compassion and intelligence to unite and rejoice in our commonality and our differences and solve this problem together[/i]".
    Dream on foolish woman, destroy America through your misplaced compassion. She also includes:
    [i]“[b]As a country we should not put our youngest citizens at risk of hunger, homelessness and living without parents,â€

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    Thanks for post. Yes, I am sure all crime weighs on the innocents in a family, but coming illegally, using a false identity and SSN to work is crime. Breaking our immigration laws and fraud are both crimes, no matter how these illegal huggers try to whitewash that fact. There are visas for those wishing to come to work. Had parents any compassion for the kids they would have stayed home! This anchor baby stuff has got to stop!
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    Re: (Lib view):Complexities of our immigration policy (Last

    Quote Originally Posted by cvangel
    For additional information go to www.immigrationpolicy.org.
    "A division of the American Immigration Law Foundation".

    Which in turn is funded by the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

    They really go to great lengths to hide who is behind this article, don't they.
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    Quoting LaRaza, using words like Their just workers, or were tering family's up, or IA's have nothing to do with corprate business is total hogwash!

    Notice how she can't bring up the problems that they create for the public, the rapes, and murders comitted by these "workers", It's easy to prove a point without using the truth to back it!!!

    She cites the war as economic drain but IA's and ther welfare hungry lifestyles cost the country billions more a year, and Illegals kill like 15,000 more people here a year than the total number of soldiers killed in Iraq since it started!

    What a moron!
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    These business owners realize that if mass roundups cause business failures that many American employees will be out of work. As per The Colorado Employers for Immigration Reform, they are asking lawmakers on the state and federal level to find a more economically viable solution.
    THESE BUSINESSES DONT WANT MASS ROUNDUPS BECAUSE THEIR ENTIRE WORKFORCE IS ILLEGAL. SO HOW ARE AMERICANS GOING TO BE OUT OF WORK IF THEY ONLY HIRE ILLEGALS? IT WILL BE ILLEGALS THAT ARE OUT OF WORK. LET THEM GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
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