Thread: Alabama churches among leading opponents of new law against

Alabama churches among leading opponents of new law against illegal immigrants
JAY REEVES Associated Press
First Posted: July 10, 2011 - 2:23 pm
Last Updated: July 10, 2011 - 5:57 pm

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — For some, opposing Alabama's toughest-in-the-nation law against illegal immigration is a chance for Bible Belt redemption.

During the civil rights movement of the 1950s and '60s, many state churches didn't join the fight to end Jim Crow laws and racial segregation. Some cross-burning Ku Klux Klan members took off their hoods and sat in the pews with everyone else on Sunday mornings, and relatively few white congregations actively opposed segregation. Some black churches were hesitant to get involved for fear of a white backlash.

Now that Alabama has passed what's widely considered the nation's most restrictive state law against illegal immigration, mainstream churches, faith-based organizations and individual members are at the forefront of opposition to the act. Some see their involvement as a way to avoid repeating mistakes of the past.

"I think what happened in the '60s may be a stimulus for the action that you have seen many of the churches taking on this," said Chriss H. Doss, an attorney and ordained Southern Baptist minister.

Matt Lacey, who is pastor of a United Methodist church once attended by Birmingham's infamous segregationist police commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, said there are all sorts of reasons Alabama Christians are opposed to the law. Making amends for the past inaction of religious groups is among them, he said.

"For me, as pastor of a church that was engaged in that battle, it is very important," said Lacey. "If we take redemption very seriously, then it not only covers our sins but our past actions as a church. I think for some, there is a tendency to want to be on the side of right on this issue. ... I would like to think the church just wants to do what's right."

After a prayer for wisdom, members of the Birmingham City Council unanimously passed a resolution recently calling for the repeal of the law. That same day, ministers and lay people gathered to discuss opposition to the law in the same church where, more than 50 years ago, white segregationists gathered to form a group to oppose white and black children going to school together.

Urged to come to a rally and candlelight march sponsored by churches and faith-based groups, a diverse crowd estimated around 2,000 marched quietly through downtown streets on a Saturday night near where police dogs snapped at black demonstrators two generations ago. And more than 100 United Methodist ministers — many of them moderate to liberal, but some also on the conservative side — signed an open letter to the governor criticizing the law.

Doss is struck by the differences between 2011 and 1963, when the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" to seven white moderate ministers and a rabbi who were publicly urging him to go slower with the campaign to end legalized segregation. Many black churches also were slow initially to embrace the cause of civil rights in Birmingham, where Klan night riders roamed with bombs for years.

"There were a number of black ministers who took a more conservative position, that they were not going to get involved publicly. Their involvement greatly increased through the years," said Wayne Coleman, head of archives at the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute.

Churches had little to say about the bill as it moved through the Alabama Legislature, but that could be because they were overwhelmed for weeks providing food and other assistance to victims of the deadly tornadoes that swept across the state on April 27, killing more than 240 people. In contrast, denominational leaders were outspoken at the Georgia General Assembly as a similarly tough law moved toward final passage in Atlanta.

Religious leaders have been less vocal in Georgia since legislators passed the law, but a federal judge blocked key provisions of that act this week. Now in Alabama, leaders among the state's fast-growing Hispanic community hope the involvement of churches will help lead to a repeal of the law, signed earlier this month by Republican Gov. Robert Bentley, a Southern Baptist deacon and Sunday school teacher.

"It's huge to have the faith community come together and speak out in such great numbers against this new law," said Isabel Rubio, executive director of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama. "Because we're in the middle of the Bible Belt, we certainly expect that the faith communities' influence ... will land on folks' ears who are willing to listen."

Religious opposition to the new law — which has included not just Christian churches but Jewish congregations and Muslim leaders — is two-fold.

Some see the issue in faith terms. Christians compare biblical instructions to welcome strangers and love others with the law's restrictions against knowingly assisting illegal immigrants by helping them secure a place to live, a job, health care other than for emergencies and even a ride to the store. Under the law, police can check anyone's immigration status during a traffic stop or other encounter and jail people without bond if they don't have proper documents.

Fernando del Castillo, pastor of a Spanish-speaking congregation of about 300 people in metro Birmingham, is particularly worried about a provision requiring that schools check the immigration status of students and report the information to the state. He fears some immigrant parents will be afraid to send their children to school when classes resume in August.

"Will they keep them at home? I don't know," said del Castillo.

Others see the issue more as a case of the state potentially interfering with the traditional work of congregations. They fear the state is criminalizing missions work by restricting the types of interactions that citizens are allowed to have with residents living in the country illegally.

"They wonder if this is the beginning of infringing on freedoms that the church has considered its bailiwick," said Doss.

Leaders of the United Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church, the Lutheran Church and the Roman Catholic Church all have criticized the law as running counter to biblical teachings about caring for neighbors, helping visitors and showing hospitality to strangers.

The state's largest denomination, the Alabama Baptist Convention, hasn't taken a position publicly and likely won't since it doesn't speak for individual churches. Convention president Mike Shaw, pastor of a church in suburban Birmingham, said the law "is the toughest in the nation and personally I think all laws need to be enforced."

"I am concerned about the language concerning giving a ride in an automobile to an illegal immigrant or allowing children of illegal immigrant parents to ride on a church bus to Sunday school, vacation Bible school, or church camp," he said in a statement. "Should we ignore people who are injured or have broken down on the side of a busy interstate highway and have small children in sweltering heat with no family or friends to help them?"

Associated Press Writer Kate Brumback in Atlanta contributed to this report.

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God says to obey mans laws as long as they do not interfere with Gods laws. Perhaps these churches should spend more time reading their bibles and less time disobeying the Word of God.

Originally Posted by Redneck_Veteran

God says to obey mans laws as long as they do not interfere with Gods laws. Perhaps these churches should spend more time reading their bibles and less time disobeying the Word of God.

AMEN TO THAT. Churches confuse religon with man laws.It says in the GOOD BOOK give unto Ceaser whats Ceasers and unto GOD WHATS GOD obey the laws of man and also the laws of GOD. Illegals are law breakers and anyone that helps them are law breakers too/

Originally Posted by duckman

Originally Posted by Redneck_Veteran

God says to obey mans laws as long as they do not interfere with Gods laws. Perhaps these churches should spend more time reading their bibles and less time disobeying the Word of God.

AMEN TO THAT. Churches confuse religon with man laws.It says in the GOOD BOOK give unto Ceaser whats Ceasers and unto GOD WHATS GOD obey the laws of man and also the laws of GOD. Illegals are law breakers and anyone that helps them are law breakers too/

I just love how the illegals and their supporters try to hide behind God,yet they seem to know nothing about the Ten Commandments!

Should we ignore people who are injured or have broken down on the side of a busy interstate highway and have small children in sweltering heat with no family or friends to help them?"

No need to ignore them, call 911. Let the law take care of em. Yes, that includes report to deport.

Now in Alabama, leaders among the state's fast-growing Hispanic community hope the involvement of churches will help lead to a repeal of the law, signed earlier this month by Republican Gov. Robert Bentley, a Southern Baptist deacon and Sunday school teacher.

"It's huge to have the faith community come together and speak out in such great numbers against this new law," said Isabel Rubio, executive director of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama. "Because we're in the middle of the Bible Belt, we certainly expect that the faith communities' influence ... will land on folks' ears who are willing to listen."


Again, the media trumps this up to imply that a large number of churches in Alabama have joined the Hispanic Interest Coalition, while in reality the illegals seem to be trying any guilt ploy that they can find including religion.

More tactics by cheap hucksters that pillage the public coffers and cheat the state by working for cash under the table and claiming welfare.

The Governor has done what the legal citizens have told him that they want done.

Many Alabamians are fed up with paying the freight for a group of people that consume the public treasury like a horde of locusts with their hands out in clenched fists demanding that they be given special treatment and claim no loyalty to this country.

They are tired of being out of work and going to the grocery store to stand in line behind some non English speaker with 3-5 kids under the age of 6 using WIC cards and food stamps then having daddy pick them up at the door in late model cars. Public assistance is passed out like candy to Non English speaking illegals. That includes the ones that speak Italian, French, German and Russian etc. The state needs to look at the numbers and start to really look at the people that they have working in the offices that make the decisions on who does and does not get help - it seems to a little biased.

Using the specter of the Klan is really digging hard for justification using nothing but fear mongering and antiquated and imbedded racial bias to get their way. It is a ridiculous comparison only someone that is truly ignorant would believe it opr give it weight. I think that the overuse of the white guilt attacks are now nothing but offensive and show the character of the people that we are dealing with which is low to none. Illegal is not a race or a color, it is a status dealing a person that has broken the law and continues to break more laws to stay.

It is impossible for me to have any respect or feeling of brotherly love for the people that behave this way and then demand that they be "respected" and march in our streets in hordes demanding even more.

Churches that try to influence laws and engage in political influence peddling should lose their tax exempt status and should be investigated. Activist "Churches" are not places of God they are using god to manipulate politics. [/b]

"It's huge to have the faith community come together and speak out in such great numbers against this new law," said Isabel Rubio, executive director of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama. "Because we're in the middle of the Bible Belt, we certainly expect that the faith communities' influence ... will land on folks' ears who are willing to listen

These people will exploit any means necessary in order to further their invasion. When group(s) like the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama start to pop up, you know you have a problem!