Your implication that Judy's Plan B won't work is correct as are the questions your asking. It's not a well thought out plan and it is absolutely unworkable.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
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Your implication that Judy's Plan B won't work is correct as are the questions your asking. It's not a well thought out plan and it is absolutely unworkable.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
LOL!! People who understand business and trade know exactly how quick, cheap and effective Judy's Plan B will be.
Immigrants From Over 75 Countries Illegally Crossing U.S. BorderQuote:
Originally Posted by Judy
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...sing-us-border
No, stopping illegals from crossing our border is OUR PROBLEM to solve. The article I provided above is concerning those crossing our border illegally, it doesn't even take into account those from other countries that come here through a visa and never leave.
See? I was right. It's not the entire world, it's 75 countries out of 195 countries in the world. We'll do just fine with the other 125 until these 75 get straight and show our country the respect we deserve. Judy's Plan B doesn't deal with visa overstays, because we let them in, so that's not the responsibility of the country they came from, that's our responsibility to make sure they leave on time.
75 countries around the globe. That's a lot of countries and it proves they are coming from around the world. Besides that, stoptheinvaders was just using her comment as a figure of speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Just like the visa overstays, we're also allowing those that cross our border to do so too because we don't seem to have the will to secure our border. Illegal is illegal, regardless of how you got here. Furthermore, it's our job to secure the border, not India's.
With Judy's Plan B, you don't have to secure the border and can stop talking about it and wasting money on it.
Ridiculous! We must secure the border, period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Your PLAN B isn't real. It's all in your imagination. No politician, appointee or government employee is ever going to see it or hear about it. They just don't go to the internet to get unsolicited advice from unqualified strangers. The real world just doesn't work that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
If you are so convinced your Plan B will work (it won't) then why doesn't Trump, the smartest man in the world (according to his cheerleaders) implement this plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Well, considering you don't have a plan, you don't have the manpower, you don't have the laws, and you don't have the money, good luck with that. All talk, no action.
That would be Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
And everyone else in this country. People try things, people have tried all types of things, there's 70 "things" in Trump's plan, but he can't get any of it passed or done, either not enough votes or not enough money or both. But hey, keep trying, who knows. In the meantime, use Judy's Plan B to stop the flow and as you and many of US call it, the "invasion". The first thing you do to stop an invasion is cut off their aid and trade. Why would anyone object to that? It's odd, peculiar, and suspect not to want to use Executive Authority and diplomacy to solve that part of this problem.
PLAN B isn't real.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
It's all in her imagination.
No politician, appointee or government employee is ever going to see it or hear about it.
They just don't go to the internet to get unsolicited advice from unqualified strangers.
The real world just doesn't work that way.
Then why are you worried about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
I hope he does! As I posted earlier, I hope he get Navarro, Lighthizer, Ross, Miller, Mulvaney, Mnuchin and Pompeo together to work up the Executive Order, and I hope he does it soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
I didn't say anything about being worried about it, that's all in your imagination too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
I merely pointed out that it's imaginary.
There's nothing imaginary about it at all. It's far more real than your "wall", Judy's Plan B is something the President can actually do to stop the flow of illegal immigration into the United States, quickly, cheaply, and effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
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Originally Posted by Judy
Whose "wall"?
Trump's wall
either in one of his dreams or one of his "untruths"
I don't have a wall. I've always been a fence supporter because most border patrol agents prefer a fence they can see thru over a wall that blocks their view of who's on the other side and what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
When I see on the 6 o'clock news that Trump is implementing "Judy's Plan B" I will see it as real. Until then, it's FAKE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
It's an idea, a suggestion.
Judy's redundancy has a purpose. She's fully convinced that should she repeat it enough the White House policy makers, advisers, and maybe even the President will eventually happen on her words and seriously consider her ideas. Whether that's true or not, I can't say (:lol:), however, I believe Judy really believes it to be so.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
I thought that was the purpose of our website forum.
It could solve their unemployment problem putting all those people to work building a WALL. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
So they threw a fit because they WERE separated...NOW they are giving them the "option" to deport the parents and SEPARATE their kids from them by LEAVING them here!!!
HELL NO...DO NOT SEPARATE THEM...DO NOT RELEASE THEIR CHILDREN ON OUR SOILD TO ANYBODY!
DEPORT THE WHOLE FAMILY!
THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT...KEEP THEM TOGETHER...ON A BUS BACK HOME!!!!
THAT JUDGE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BENCH!
WE DO NOT HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO KEEP CHILDREN WHO ARE FOREIGN CITIZENS!!!
If this is the law it just proves Congress is a Cuckoo's Nest.
It actually does work that way, but it's fascinating to learn your low opinion of ALIPAC members and our website forum, given your 86,000 posts here.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
"In its release, DHS noted that it is the parents' choice whether to be deported with their child, and that "in the past many parents have elected to be removed without their children."
It's still unclear who will take responsibility for linking parents with children. "
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/polit...lan/index.html
Deportations orders aren't at their election are they? Are you suggesting DOJ hasn't issued deportation orders and parents are self-deporting leaving their children behind to await a deportation order from DOJ because they don't already have one? Is that what is going on here?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
NO.
It says that parents who are being deported by DOJ are being allowed by DHS, to leave their kids here with relatives (legal or illegal), family friends, foster care, etc.
Why didn't DOJ deport their children when they deported the parents? Are you suggesting DHS is violating the DOJ deportation orders issued on the children?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
Please read all of the articles so I don't have to look everything up for you and then explain it over and over.
DHS: Migrants Are Leaving Their Children with Trump’s Agencies
DHS Official: Deported Parents Decided to Leave 100-Plus Children Behind
Finally, after all these posting of article after article, and links to other threads to duplicate your posts, you actually get involved in dialog. But after a couple of posts you revert to assigning reading assignments so the reader can try to figure out what you think or are trying to say! https://www.alipac.us/images/icons/icon13.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
In those articles, DOJ didn't issue Deportation Orders on the children or they would have been deported with the parents, they only issued Deportation Orders on a few of these parents. Why hasn't DOJ issued Deportation Orders on the children?
Dialog is optional, not required.
He stops because he doesn't actually know what he's talking about, it's why he posts articles and cross-posts them.
Here is the reason:
TVPRA = Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization ActQuote:
Pro-immigration advocates say the 2008 update to the TVPRA law allows children to seek asylum — and eventually citizenship — because their parents carried them into the United States and then refused to take them home.
So, the DOJ is using the TVPRA to ensure that children trafficked into the United States remain in the United States for the purpose they were trafficked into the United States to serve to begin with.
This law is not protecting victims of trafficking, it's ensuring that victims of trafficking are forced to remain in the United States to do what they were smuggled and trafficked in here to do, while the traffickers skip gleefully back home for another run.
It's a pedophile ring protected by the US government. Any "unqualified stranger" can see that plain as the nose on their face.
It's another "opposite law" as Trump now calls them, which is what is happening in our country during what I call our "Period of Ironies and Opposites."
In all fairness to JD2, it does get rather tiresome continuously repeating yourself. Some folks find it easier to just provide the source of their information instead of bickering back and forth with a know-it-all that ALWAYS thinks your wrong and they're right. Furthermore, providing the source of your information removes all doubt to the validity of what you're saying. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jtdc