Thread: Bush's Immigration Plan Called 'Massive Amnesty

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Bush's Immigration Plan Called 'Massive Amnesty'
By Monisha Bansal
CNSNews.com Correspondent
November 29, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - Depending on the political viewpoint, President Bush has either "re-emerged as a leader" with his immigration reform proposal or is offering "massive amnesty" to illegal aliens who have no intention of honoring the conditions contained in the president's plan.

On Monday, Bush ventured to the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Ariz., to explain the fine print on his proposal, which includes provisions that would allow illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. as temporary workers for up to six years.

While warning that his administration would not tolerate illegal immigration, Bush also declared that "America has always been a compassionate nation that welcomes the newcomer."

Immigrants "help meet the demands of a growing economy and help those who are trying to provide for their families through an honest day's work," Bush said.

Earlier in the day Cybercast News Service enlisted the views of the president's supporters and critics on the issue.

"President Bush has re-emerged as a leader on this issue. Immigration reform is incredibly important, and the more time that passes, the worse the problem is getting," said Michele Waslin, director of immigration policy research at the National Council of La Raza, a group that describes itself as "the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States."

"We have about 11 million undocumented illegal immigrants working in this country, living in the shadows, fearful of coming forward to report crimes, being exploited in the workplace, and that's a problem," Waslin told Cybercast News Service.

Jeanne Butterfield, director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA), said Bush's proposal moves in the right direction, but she added that the government should "provide a path towards permanent residency options after the six years, and provide real, viable options for those who want to work."

However, Ira Mehlman, media director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), one of the nation's harshest critics of the government's handling of illegal immigration, said the time is right for a tough, new policy.

"The American public is just clamoring for border security and enforcing our immigration laws," Mehlman said, but he added that Bush appears to want to satisfy both sides in the debate.

"What [President Bush is] going to do is basically tell everybody on the other side of the border to just wait because they will be able to come legally," Mehlman said. At the same time, Bush's message that individuals aspiring to move to the U.S. should not cross illegally is meant "to show that he's serious about enforcing the border.

Bush's program, Mehlman said, would amount to a "massive amnesty and vast guest worker program."

Individuals who originally arrived in the U.S. under illegal terms would have no interest in following the president's temporary worker guidelines, he said. "They are never going to go home. They aren't all going to thank us and then pick up and go home. They'll stay," Mehlman told Cybercast News Service.

"All that [Bush] is going to do is open the borders and allow all the people to come in through some legal channel," according to Mehlman.

John Keeley, director of communications at the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), said he considers the Bush immigration reform plan consistent with the president's past actions.
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"I don't think this is any remarkable departure for the president in how he has viewed the issue of immigration since he came into office nearly five years ago. He's not going to appeal to the vast majority of American conservatives," Keeley told Cybercast News Service.

"He could, if he wanted to, by executive order today, empower the Social Security Administration and the IRS and Treasury Departments to send notices to employers that are hiring illegal aliens, saying, 'We're not going to tolerate it anymore.' But he won't do that, and that is telling, Keeley said.

The president is "looking to sort of jujitsu what is now a crisis, so that he won't generate heat from the Democrats in Congress, but at the same time curry some favor with his conservative base," Keeley added.

Guest worker programs "have always failed," according to Keeley, noting that the recent riots in France involve North African emigrants who arrived in France through guest worker programs.

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Bush is an insane, maniacal, two-timing, back-stabbing GLOBALIST intent upon ending the United States and wiping the American People off the face of the earth.

Neither he nor anyone in the US Government has any intentions of securing our borders or enforcing immigration law. This Administration and this Congress will never enforce our laws, existing laws or new laws. It doesn't matter how many Americans incur deflated wages and salaries, lose their jobs, lose their homes, lose their car, lose their education, lose their medical care, lose their minds....this Government has already been bought and sold to a foreign camp.

This Government is renegade, off the wall, over the top, and totally "alien" to the interest and welfare of the American People.

WE are in Deep Twit!!

Judy do you think the next congress will be better? will the next President be better? (from our perspective)... be careful of what you wish for you may get a real "open-border" president.....

who would do better?

Pokie, we're not "wishing" for anything. We, as Americans, are DEMANDING SOMETHING.

There is a HUGE difference between the two.

so what?

what "electable" politician do you want in the White House and do better than Bush?

Pokie, do you live in Mississippi, but work in D.C. by chance ?

Maybe I'm mistaken and it was someone else, but I thought it was you. Could have been another new member, that I'm thinking about.

Nice to talk to you, but time to get some sleep. Have fun!

P.S. We would like nothing more than for GWB to grow up. But we can't control that. It's entirely up to him.

Goodnight Pokey.

Hi Pokie--you asked will the next Congress do better? Better at what? Securing our borders and enforcing US immigration law? Under our present system, Pokie, Congress has no responsibility with regards to securing our borders and enforcing US immigration law. Security of the borders and enforcement of US Immigration law as with all our federal laws and national security issues falls in the Executive Branch and is the responsibility of the President and his Cabinet. Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security is the Cabinet member responsible for securing the borders and enforcing US Immigration Law, but if the President tells him not to, then Chertoff won't and he hasn't, nor did his predecessor before him, Tom Ridge, another Bush appointee.

The Governors of the states and the President can order national guard troops to the borders. I don't know if Congress can do that or not. I don't think so. They can authorize it and provide the funding for it, but they do not EXECUTE the program. Under our system, it is the President and the Executive Branch who carries out and actually executes the programs to enforce our laws.

Every Congressman, Representative or Senator that discusses it ties border security to a temporary worker program. They just have different variations of the same plan.

Who would be better than Bush? Well, we have had in our history now 43 Presidents. The only one to sign 38 Free Trade Agreements selling out our nation is George W Bush. The only one to totally abandon enforcement of US Immigration Law with no prosecutions of illegal employers and no serious effort to secure the borders is George W Bush.

Approximatey 90% of the American Public wants our borders secured and our immigration laws enforced. That means 9 out of 10 Americans. With odds like that, all America would have to do is make sure it elects 1 of the 9 to every public office in the United States and sends the other 10% out of politics permanently.

There is no person worse than George Bush. He really is an Open Borders President, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Dissolutionist intent upon dissolving the United States, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Traitor signing 38 Free Trade Agreements and working on more that transfer power to the WTO, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Globalist pursuing world tyranny, he's just not honest about it.

Who for President if we Impeach Bush and Cheney? It's Dennis Hastert who is next in line. He can't be worse that Bush. No one.. is worse than George W Bush.

Hi Pokie--you asked will the next Congress do better? Better at what? Securing our borders and enforcing US immigration law? Under our present system, Pokie, Congress has no responsibility with regards to securing our borders and enforcing US immigration law. Security of the borders and enforcement of US Immigration law as with all our federal laws and national security issues falls in the Executive Branch and is the responsibility of the President and his Cabinet. Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security is the Cabinet member responsible for securing the borders and enforcing US Immigration Law, but if the President tells him not to, then Chertoff won't and he hasn't, nor did his predecessor before him, Tom Ridge, another Bush appointee.

The Governors of the states and the President can order national guard troops to the borders. I don't know if Congress can do that or not. I don't think so. They can authorize it and provide the funding for it, but they do not EXECUTE the program. Under our system, it is the President and the Executive Branch who carries out and actually executes the programs to enforce our laws.

Every Congressman, Representative or Senator that discusses it ties border security to a temporary worker program. They just have different variations of the same plan.

Who would be better than Bush? Well, we have had in our history now 43 Presidents. The only one to sign 38 Free Trade Agreements selling out our nation is George W Bush. The only one to totally abandon enforcement of US Immigration Law with no prosecutions of illegal employers and no serious effort to secure the borders is George W Bush.

Approximatey 90% of the American Public wants our borders secured and our immigration laws enforced. That means 9 out of 10 Americans. With odds like that, all America would have to do is make sure it elects 1 of the 9 to every public office in the United States and sends the other 10% out of politics permanently.

There is no person worse than George Bush. He really is an Open Borders President, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Dissolutionist intent upon dissolving the United States, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Traitor signing 38 Free Trade Agreements and working on more that transfer power to the WTO, he's just not honest about it. He really is a Globalist pursuing world tyranny, he's just not honest about it.

Who for President if we Impeach Bush and Cheney? It's Dennis Hastert who is next in line. He can't be worse that Bush. No one.. is worse than George W Bush.