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    NC: Hispanics students seen sliding

    Hispanics students seen sliding
    N.C. schools see trouble with dropout and pregnancy rates
    KRISTIN COLLINS (RALEIGH) NEWS AND OBSERVER

    The debate over immigration often dwells on keeping illegal immigrants from slipping into the country. But when it comes to Hispanic youths who are already here, an opposite concern arises -- too many are slipping away.

    Hispanic youths -- some born here, some who entered the country illegally but are growing up here -- are at increasing risk of drifting into self-destructive and criminal behavior as they try to find their place in U.S. culture, according to those who have studied trends among Hispanic immigrants.

    In North Carolina, a host of indicators show that many immigrant teens are not succeeding:

    • Dropout rates for Hispanic students are higher than for any other group in the state. In the 2005-06 school year, nearly 9 percent of Hispanic high school students dropped out, compared with less than 4.5 percent of white students.

    • More than half of North Carolina's Hispanic girls are expected to be pregnant before their 20th birthdays.

    • A recent study of nearly 300 Hispanic immigrant teens in North Carolina, done by the UNC Chapel Hill School of Social Work, sketched a picture of a population with emotional scars, uneducated parents and the pervasive feeling that they are not accepted by Americans.

    More than 40 percent said they had faced ethnic discrimination, most frequently by their classmates.

    Sixty-five percent of the teens agreed that "Americans generally feel superior to foreigners." Only 5 percent said they received any counseling.

    A national survey by New York University professor Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, tracked immigrant teens for five years. At the end, half were doing worse in school than when the study began.

    Gang-prevention efforts

    Juana Martinez, 17, a senior at Wake Forest-Rolesville High School, is president of the club Latinos Constructing a Better Future, formed as part of a gang- prevention effort.At a recent meeting, she said, several boys talked about taunts from classmates.

    "They said that some people have told them, `Hey, go back to Mexico,' " Martinez said. "And some of them aren't even from Mexico. They were born here."

    Martinez said she has watched many of her Hispanic classmates drift into trouble: girls getting pregnant, boys wearing gang colors and forming segregated groups, others dropping out to take low-wage jobs.

    Some Hispanic boys at her school, she said, feel that a grade point average higher than 2.5 is "too smart."

    For many Hispanic students, problems stem from family circumstances. Their parents are often desperately poor and uneducated, and they come to the United States ill-equipped to deal with the pressure their children will face. Many work long hours and understand little of what goes on inside their children's schools.

    Martinez, who moved to North Carolina from Mexico when she was 9, says her mother doesn't speak English. Her mother was never able to help with homework and felt uncomfortable visiting her schools.

    Now Martinez spends two afternoons a week working with Hispanic students at Wake Forest Elementary School, hoping to give them the support she never had. For one boy who didn't know his letters, she wrote out their sounds in Spanish, hoping his mother would work with him.

    "He came back and said his mom told him she's sorry, but she didn't have time because she had to work," Martinez said.

    Gangs growing fast

    The price of ignoring the problems of immigrant Hispanic youth is that some become a problem for society at large.

    A 2005 study showed that Hispanic gangs were the fastest-growing segment of North Carolina's mounting gang problem, accounting for a quarter of the state's nearly 400 gangs. Many carry the names of notorious groups such as the Latin Kings or MS-13 that originated in California, Mexico and elsewhere.

    Many of North Carolina's gang members are homegrown -- youths who felt isolated by language barriers or poverty, who were bullied and scorned by classmates, and who looked to a gang for acceptance.

    Much of North Carolina's gang activity can be traced to children and teens running in disorganized packs and claiming false ties to notorious international gangs, gang experts say.

    A big myth about gangs "is that they are migrating across the country," said Buddy Howell of the National Youth Gang Center, a U.S. Justice Department program. "Whenever you study an area with a gang problem, you find that most all of the gang members grew up there."

    Like the waves of immigrants before them -- Eastern Europeans, Italians, Irish -- Hispanic youths are banding together in the face of a foreign environment, according to researchers, educators and social workers. As anger rises over a wave of Hispanic immigration, some say they fear that more Hispanic children will become alienated and turn to gangs.

    Robbery arrest

    In the Triangle, the recent arrest of Nelson Rafael Hernandez put a face on the Hispanic gang problem.Hernandez, the oldest of four teens, accused of robbing a Raleigh man and trying to rob a Durham woman, sneered and flashed gang signals as he stood in a Durham courtroom earlier this month.

    One of the teens police said was with Hernandez, a 16-year-old, was killed when, police said, he waved a gun at an officer outside a public library.

    The mother of one suspect, another 16-year-old who lives in Durham, said that he had been expelled from school and that she was unable to stop him from running with the wrong crowd.

    She didn't know whether he had any true ties to the Latin Kings, the Chicago-based Hispanic gang that investigators say the teens were involved in.

    Mike Figueras, who runs a gang prevention program for El Pueblo, a statewide Hispanic advocacy group, said children whose needs aren't met at home or at school are prime candidates for joining gangs.

    They submit to beatings from fellow gang members, a common initiation ritual, and allow gang leaders to dictate their lives. He said most do it not for money, but for a feeling of belonging.

    "It's so important to the kids that they're willing to do anything," he said. "We're looking at 11-year-olds joining gangs."

    Reaching out to help

    Schools and advocates have started programs to help immigrant children. Schools around the state offer English as a Second Language programs, and they employ Spanish-speaking outreach workers.

    El Pueblo has started Hispanic clubs and leads anti-gang classes at schools across Wake County.

    But William Lassiter, manager of the state's Center for the Prevention of School Violence, said that it's often difficult for educators to overcome all the obstacles facing Hispanic students. Some are four or five years behind and illiterate in their native language. Often, parents offer no information to help teachers, he said.

    And if they join gangs, he said, educators often write them off.

    "The big misconception is that these kids are not savable, that once they're in, they're in for life. That's just not true. We need to ask ourselves: How do we serve these kids better?"
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    Tired old discussions and blame. They had the same in California 30 years ago. Next thing they will roll out is they lack an identity and need La Raza and Mecha to come in and save the day. Only positive is we could solve 80% of the problem in NC by enforcing our immigration laws; but we dont.
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    But when it comes to Hispanic youths who are already here, an opposite concern arises -- too many are slipping away.
    Yeah, and unfortunately they're taking some of our children with them (referring to anchor babies and illegals).

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    But wait, I thought they were all wonderful students with 4.0 grade averages and we just have to give them a college education.

    You mean they aren't?
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    Sixty-five percent of the teens agreed that "Americans generally feel superior to foreigners."
    Only if those foeigners are residing in my country through ill-gotten means .. CRIME.
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    This is all the more reason to send them home!

    I wonder what my school would do if I tried to start an all-white club. It's funny how it's okay to have a Hispanic Club, or African-American Club, Indian American Club, but a Caucasion Club would be interpreted as the KKK!

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    Hispanic kids going bad? Well, this just tells me that although the illegal aliens are popping out anchor babies faster than a gumball machine can spit out something to chew on, these parents don't have a clue how to raise these kids, nor do they care. And we keep hearing the argument that Americans depend on these people from south of the border. Not! And I thought the old argument as to why they crossed our border illegally in the first place, was to give their kids a better life. Yeah, right! This is your future generation, folks. A huge mess of gang members.
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