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    With illegal immigrants in mind, LAPD to change impound rule

    With illegal immigrants in mind, LAPD to change impound rules

    The change would let unlicensed drivers summon someone with a license, who would then be allowed to drive the car away. Chief Charlie Beck calls it a fairness issue. The police union opposes the plan.

    By Joel Rubin and Paloma Esquivel, Los Angeles Times

    December 14, 2011
    Unlicensed drivers without prior convictions would be given the chance to avoid having their vehicles impounded under new rules outlined Tuesday by the Los Angeles Police Department.

    The proposed changes to the impound procedures are a potentially explosive issue because LAPD Chief Charlie Beck designed the reforms to remedy what he believes is the unfair burden that impounds place on illegal immigrants. Since immigrants who are in the country illegally cannot get driver's licenses in California and most other states, they make up the majority of the drivers who have their cars impounded for the infraction.

    Beck contends that the hundreds of dollars in fees and fines that must be paid to retrieve an impounded car and the disruption to illegal immigrants' often tenuous hold on jobs deal a disproportionate blow to people "who are a valuable asset to our community and who have very limited resources."

    In an interview Tuesday, Beck amplified his position: "It's a fairness issue. There is a vast difference between someone driving without a license because they cannot legally be issued one and someone driving after having their license revoked."

    The city's influential police union, which is leading the opposition to the plan, has criticized Beck and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for trying what they see as an effort to score political points through reforms that the union warns could hurt public safety.

    Under the current rules, L.A. police are instructed to impound cars driven by people who either do not have a license or who have had their license revoked or suspended, said Assistant Chief Michel Moore.

    Under the new rules, police would let an unlicensed driver who has not been convicted previously of driving without a valid license summon someone with a license, who would then be allowed to drive the car away.

    Moore presented the new procedures at a public meeting of the Police Commission, the civilian body that oversees the LAPD. Several of the panel's members expressed support for the idea, but voiced concern that the department could open itself to claims of unequal treatment, since the amount of time an officer allows for a substitute driver to arrive will vary depending on how much time the officer can spare.

    Beck and Moore conceded that would be an unavoidable aspect of the new rules, but said it would be no different from other aspects of policing in which officers must use their discretion. "We rely on our officers to do the right thing. I will hold them accountable," Beck said.

    If the driver cannot find someone to retrieve the vehicle, it would be impounded. Officers, however, would be instructed to use a section of the vehicle code that allows the car's owner to retrieve it as soon as a licensed driver can get to the impound lot. Currently, officers can use a less lenient section of the code that requires the car be held for 30 days.

    Commissioner Alan Skobin suggested that owners who repeatedly allow unlicensed drivers to use their cars, not just drivers, should be held accountable. He urged Beck to expand the plan to include instructions that officers impound cars that have been impounded previously.

    Skobin also questioned how the department plans to identify and keep track of repeat offenders who avoid detection by giving police different names each time they are stopped.

    Moore said the department now has about 400 mobile fingerprint devices that can be used to identify people but is looking for other ways to address the issue.

    Wanting to maintain control over how and when the new rules are implemented, Beck emphasized to the commission that the changes would effect department procedures instead of policy — an important distinction since the commission must vote on policy matters.

    Beck assured the board that he would not put the changes into place until hearing concerns from commissioners, immigration advocates, opponents of the plan, and the public. He gave no firm timeline.

    The latest plan expands on similar changes Beck made several months ago to the rules that apply when unlicensed drivers are stopped at drunk-driving checkpoints.

    Kristi Sandoval, a union official, warned the board that the more lenient rules would allow dangerous drivers to remain on the road.

    Some studies support that claim. Dave DeYoung, chief of the research and development branch at the state Department of Motor Vehicles, led a pair of studies in the 1990s that found unlicensed drivers nearly five times more likely to be involved in a fatal crash than licensed ones. Impounding vehicles, he concluded, was an effective way to keep unlicensed drivers off the road.

    And two nationwide studies by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety concluded that 13% to 14% of drivers involved in fatal crashes did not have a valid license at the time.

    There is, however, no reliable data available that singles out the driving records of illegal immigrants.

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    L.A. Police Won't Enforce Safety Law To Help Illegal Aliens


    December 14, 2011

    The city of Los Angeles is taking its sanctuary title more seriously than most by ordering police officers to stop enforcing a state public safety law because it creates an “unfair burden” for illegal immigrants.

    A few weeks ago the mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa​, directed the Los Angeles Police Department​ (LAPD) to stop impounding the vehicles of unlicensed drivers for 30 days as per state law. The measure is intended to keep potentially reckless drivers off the road and therefore protect the public. It applies to unlicensed drivers as well as those who have had their license revoked or suspended.

    Under the law illegal immigrants make up the majority of the drivers who have their cars impounded because they can’t get licenses in California or most states. LAPD Chief Charlie Beck told the local newspaper that this presents an “unfair burden” and “disproportionate blow” for illegal aliens, who he refers to as a “valuable asset to our community.”

    So the chief has ordered his officers to give unlicensed drivers a chance to avoid having their vehicles impounded by calling someone with a license who would then be allowed to drive the car. The chief says it’s a “fairness issue” because there is a “vast difference between someone driving without a license because they cannot legally be issued one and someone driving after having their license revoked.”

    The city’s police union is outraged and is charging the mayor with putting politics above public safety. “This new policy will result in innocent people being injured and killed,” the union said in a statement posted on its website. “It is a sad day for Los Angeles residents because the Mayor is directing the LAPD to purposely not enforce a state law designed to protect public safety.”

    The union further points out that the new policy exposes officers and the city to potential legal liabilities stemming from any damage or injury caused by an unlicensed driver’s continued operation of a vehicle that should have been impounded under state law. It also “substantially reduces the disincentives against the unlicensed and unlawful operation of a vehicle.”

    The LAPD has a decades-old policy (Special Order 40) that prohibits officers from initiating police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person. This prevents officers from inquiring about the immigration status of an individual and from contacting federal officials about an individual’s immigration status. In 2006 Judicial Watch filed a taxpayer lawsuit in the Superior Court of the State of California asking the court to prohibit the LAPD from expending taxpayer funds to enforce and maintain Special Order 40, which violates both federal immigration laws and California law while placing American citizens at risk.

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