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    Alien hiring fine fails on Hill

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    Alien hiring fine fails on Hill
    By Charles Hurt
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Published January 26, 2007

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    Senate Democrats quashed a proposal yesterday that would have dramatically increased civil fines on employers who hire illegal aliens.
    Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, offered the amendment to the bill now being debated that would increase the federal minimum wage.
    Ridding the economy of illegal aliens, he argued, would do far more to help low-income wage earners than simply raising the minimum wage. Not only do aliens displace U.S. citizens in the work force, he said, they also artificially suppress wages.
    "Our whole purpose of the minimum-wage act is to increase the wages of working Americans, particularly low-skilled workers," Mr. Sessions said. "That's a noble goal."
    One of the reasons "that those salaries have lagged behind is because of a large influx of illegal immigrant labor," he said. "That is indisputable, and it's not been discussed much here. People apparently don't want to talk about it, but we're going to talk about it."
    But Democratic leaders refused to let Mr. Sessions' alien amendment reach the Senate floor yesterday, and they accused him and other Republicans of offering amendments unrelated to the minimum-wage increase in order to stall passage of the bill.
    Some 60 amendments have been offered, and today marks the fifth day of debate on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 per hour from $5.15 per hour over two years.
    "Amendment here. Amendment there," thundered Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat.
    "Amendment on Social Security. Amendment on immigration. And all the chortling and laughing as they go on about their business," he boomed.
    Republicans are "not for those millions of Americans who are heading home tonight, who've worked long and hard, facing their children hoping that at last ... the United States isn't going to fail us," he said. "What do we tell them after five days?"
    After accusing Republicans of stalling, Mr. Kennedy then proceeded to read aloud for five minutes a story in the New York Times about soldiers fighting in Iraq.
    Mr. Sessions said his amendment is not a delaying tactic and isn't unrelated to the overall minimum-wage bill. His provision, he said, gets at the very reason a minimum-wage increase is needed in the first place. He calls his amendment "comprehensive wage reform," a sly reference to the "comprehensive" approach to immigration reform that Democrats and President Bush are demanding, but most Republicans deride as amnesty.
    Mr. Sessions' proposal came directly out of the employer-sanctions section of the immigration-reform bill approved with overwhelming Democratic support last year.
    It would raise the minimum fine on employers from $250 per hired alien to $5,000 per alien. And it would raise the maximum fine from $10,000 per alien to $40,000 per alien.
    Though Democrats turned back Mr. Sessions' employer-sanctions amendment, they allowed through a second Sessions amendment aimed at federal government contractors who are caught hiring illegal aliens.
    He ticked off a half-dozen recent examples of federal contractors using illegal aliens, even in the most sensitive of positions.
    "It's astounding how widespread this problem is," Mr. Sessions said. "In one alarming incident, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was caught allowing illegal aliens who obtained documentation by using fake Social Security numbers to work as contract painters at nuclear facilities."
    Under the amendment that Democrats allowed last night, any government contractor caught using illegal labor would be prohibited from future government contracts for ten years. It was approved on a 94-0 vote.




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    "It's astounding how widespread this problem is," Mr. Sessions said. "In one alarming incident, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was caught allowing illegal aliens who obtained documentation by using fake Social Security numbers to work as contract painters at nuclear facilities."
    Now this scares the living hell out of me. Illegals working in a nuclear facility. These illegals could be OTM's and possibly terrorists.
    With the Senate killing his motion to increase civil signs should be very clear evidance that big business has more pull in DC than the American citizen.
    We've all know this for years, but this should be very clear evidance to verify our suspicions.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Increased fines for hiring illegals

    the democrats are not going to do anything that hurts the money from big business. The democrats and RINO are going to give the country away to the illegals and our taxes are going to pay for it.

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    "Amendment here. Amendment there," thundered Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat.
    What a BLOWHARD is Teddy the Swimmer!
    The KING of crap amendments draining the American taxpayer.

    He's a disgrace to our Constitution and a traitor & murderer in his own right.
    Secret meetings with the soviets while we were at war......drowning innocent young girls.

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    The hypocricy of the Democrats has been so absolutely profound in these first few weeks of the new year, it is sickening. In the House, the Pelosicrats, where her royal heiness promised bi-partisanship, have all but pushed the Republicans out the door when it comes to commitee negotiations. Barney Frank tried to put his sock in Rep. McHenry's mouth when he questioned American Samoa getting left out of the minimum wage increase in favor of Del Monte. They ramrodded the Resolution to allow votes in the House for the delegates from American Samoa, DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands, clearly violating the Constitution. And, as I have harped on other threads, the Blue Dog Democrats have not shown up yet to defend conservatism. I guess the Queen got to them.

    They try to pretend like they care about the poor and middle class. PLEASE!!! If you support illegal immigration, you DO NOT support the middle class nor the poor of this nation. If you support mass welfare programs you do not support the middle class nor the poor. In fact, if you support a BIG FAT GOVERNMENT that is supposed to take care of the elderly, the sick, the poor, the workers, illegal immigrants, Darfur, AIDS in Africa, global warming, global cooling, education, terrorism, toll roads, abortion, stem-cell research, gay marriage, etc. all at one time or anytime at all, then you DO NOT support the middle class nor the poor.

    The government is not supposed to be a charitable organization, because it does not have the money to play with to use for charitable purposes. Its money is our money. Let ME decide if I wish to give to help Darfur, the poor, AIDS victims, etc. Let ME decide if I want to join the military or not. Let ME decide if I wish to save money or not. Let ME decide if I want to succeed in life, or if I want to be an absolute failure. Those things should be options left up to me. Choice is a God given right. I don't need the government to do things for me that I know I can do for myself.

    Obey the laws? Of course. Pay my taxes? Grudgingly, yes. Support a socialist regime? No way! That is not what our Founding Fathers intended. These totalitarian Eliticans and socialist Pelosicrats need to stop butchering and misinterpreting our Constitution. It is a sacred document, not a doormat.

    Sorry for the rant, but that is my name.
    THE POOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN MY AVATAR CROSSED OVER THE WRONG BORDER FENCE!!!

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    we need to call these folks.....oh yes we do...call and call and call and let them know how disappointed we are......
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbadger
    we need to call these folks.....oh yes we do...call and call and call and let them know how disappointed we are......
    Red Badger, I literally burned up a fax machine at my house back in November. Every morning I fax a series of letters to the white house, all of my reps in UT, and a letter to all the new dems who claimed they are getting tough on immigration once elected.

    I went and bought a new one and it certainly has had its workouts!
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Rock on sippy ...but I am sorry for your printers...lol...
    I had to buy another cartridge...in less then a month...arrggghhhhh
    but it was worth it....
    Never look at another flag. Remember, that behind Government, there is your country, and that you belong to her as you do belong to your own mother. Stand by her as you would stand by your own mother

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