Thread: Effort to overturn California Dream Act hits the streets

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October 21, 2011
Effort to overturn California Dream Act hits the streets
Opponents of a new law that allows illegal immigrants to receive college financial aid were given the green light to begin collecting signatures for a referendum to overturn the measure, Secretary of State Debra Bowen's office announced today.

Led by Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Twin Peaks, referendum backers hope to halt implementation of the California Dream Act. Gov. Jerry Brown signed the measure Oct. 8.

Donnelly's group has until Jan. 6 to collect valid signatures from 504,760 registered voters. Donnelly has said he hopes to wage a largely volunteer effort fueled by social media and talk radio.

Assembly Bill 131, written by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, will allow undocumented immigrant college students who already qualify for in-state tuition rates to receive state-funded financial aid, including Cal Grants. Qualified students must have attended California high schools for at least three years and graduated.

The measure is scheduled to take effect in 2013. If Donnelly succeeds in securing the signatures, the measure would be halted until it can be decided by state voters next year.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlat ... e-aid.html

Dream Act will only make it harder for students with impacted majors
With budget cuts, less classes, and impacted majors, the Dream Act just doesn't make sense.
By Jessica Wilson, Hornet Reporter


Published: Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Updated: Thursday, October 20, 2011 20:10

California's recently signed Dream Act is scary for transfer students with already impacted majors.

The California Dream Act opens up financial aid to students who are not legally in the United States, but will ultimately make it harder for students, American students, to get classes or transfer.

With impacted majors already suffering from the budget cuts in recent years, the newly signed Dream Act doesn't make sense for California students, students already attending California Universities as well as those looking to transfer to California Universities.

Luke, a student at California State University at Long Beach who is majoring in construction engineering management, a recently impacted major, says "it is already difficult enough for students with impacted majors to get the classes they need, adding the Dream Act will only make it more difficult to for students to get classes which will keep students in school for more semesters than they need to be. It doesn't make sense."

When transferring to a California state school, the application even notes that if a student's major while applying is impacted, you may not be considered for admission. With the question of whether or not students, American students or immigrants who are here legally, will be able to transfer and keep their major, it doesn't make sense to worsen the problem by adding more pressure.

Not only it is the Dream Act adding unfair pressure to students who are legal residents of California, but it is completely unfair to those students who come here from other countries legally. The fact that these illegal immigrants have come here illegally and made a mockery of the laws in place for immigration as well as the whole naturalization process, received the privileges of residing here while others are still working hard to follow the law to get here, and the fact that many students who follow the laws to come here do not have access to this kind of aid, is a slap in the face to all legal boundaries regarding immigration and those who have chosen to stay within those boundaries.

What kind of message does this send? It is almost to say; if you are here illegally you can reap more benefits than if you come here legally.

Current students, those already attending and those looking to attend or transfer to California schools will be, in one way or another, affected by this.

When the budget cuts of the recent years occurred in California Universities, there was so much uproar and worry by Californians about the results it would have on tuition and impacted majors. Well, where is that worry now? With already cutting professors and classes, why on earth would we unnecessarily add more students to the mix?

Especially with the current problems with budgets, the Dream Act makes no sense for California right now, especially for the sake of current students.

http://www.fchornet.com/dream-act-will- ... -1.2655770

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Good luck and good fortune in the attempt to collect enough signatures. But I'm concerned about foul play from state government officials even if the required number of sigs is reached.

I remember the petition drive from a few years ago to put Jamiel's Law on the ballot. Around 74,000 signatures were required, and they collected around 76,000. The Mainstream News Media kept on reporting that the required number of sigs was way out of reach, despite the valiant efforts of loyal Californians who wanted to save their state.

760 petition packets were turned in to the City Elections office, but an employee later claimed that only 480 were turned in. The employee also said that only around 20,000 signatures were recorded. And all of this counting was supposed to be completed in 2 days, but actually took six.

Perhaps the Elections Office needed a few extra days to figure out how to "spin the story", and possible offshoots of the story. After all, the Mainstream News Media already reported well in advance that the number of signatures needed fell way short.

If the signature gatherers are fortunate enough to collect 500,000 signatures or so to put the repeal of the 2011 California DREAM Act on the ballot, perhaps they should simply make copies of all 500,000, in case the State Elections Offices misplaces thousands of signatures again.

Did "Jamiels law" eventually become law? Or did it fail?

California must tell Brown that illegal aliens must be deported. All illegal aliens must be deported across the United States.

Did "Jamiels law" eventually become law? Or did it fail?

After the City Elections office's claim that only 480 of 760 packets of signatures was received, the purported insufficient amount of signatures meant that it wouldn't make the ballot. In a normal situation, even if an insufficient number of signatures was received, there would be a hope that the City Council would be inspired by the valiant efforts of concerned LA citizens, and make the decision themselves to put it on the ballot themselves. But, of course, nearly all of the LA City Council members bend over backwards to appease illegal aliens, and possibly even gang members. Jamiel's Law would have targeted gang members. After all, one of these gang members targeted Jamiel Shaw II for no reason.

Jamiel's Law would have eliminated or revised "Special Order 40", which isn't even a real law to begin with. It's just a policy that all of the LA Police Departments agree to follow, under the impression that illegal alien communities can feel comfortable in their illegal presence. But murder isn't preferable to comfort.

Originally Posted by immigration2009

California must tell Brown that illegal aliens must be deported. All illegal aliens must be deported across the United States.

Absolutely. Without question or doubt, all illegal aliens must be deported without bias, preference or mercy.

I'm down to sign this and will bring all the people I know to sign this my only question is where do I go