Thread: Lessons of the Dream Act Defeat

Lessons of the Dream Act defeat
Senate vote reveals staying power of illegal immigration issue
By Tom Curry
National affairs writer
MSNBC
Updated: 4:12 p.m. ET Oct 24, 2007
WASHINGTON - The Senate rejected Wednesday an attempt to move ahead with a bill to allow illegal immigrants under age 30 to remain in the United States and gain legal status if they attend college or join the military.

The vote to move ahead on the Dream Act (the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act), got 52 votes, eight short of the 60 needed.

Among those voting against moving ahead with the bill were eight Democrats, even though Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appealed to his majority to back him.

But this was yet another case when the Democratic majority was not a true working majority. Senate rules require a supermajority of 60 to advance most bills.

The vote was a significant leading indicator for 2008 of the potency of illegal immigration as an election issue.

Implications for 2008
Illegal immigration remains at a legislative impasse — and that may be a good thing for GOP chances since the party’s base in the South and West tends to be vehemently opposed to any accommodation with illegal immigrants.

In his post-vote assessment, the Dream Act’s chief sponsor, Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said, “In a campaign year, it is a very difficult issue. If it’s tough this year, it’s tougher next year.â€

All I've learned is pound them into submission...have eyes in the back of your head...never think it's over.

[quote]They are probably hoping Republicans will stop it,â€

The election concerns are turning them back! Nice, just as we predicted.

Hey Reid and Durbin, do you idiots remember when everyone said that the summer was the last chance for your amnesty plans?

Deal with it chumps.

W

We need to prepare for second round on this.Even though it had been defeated only an hour before,senators such as pat murray was making speeches about dream act (if you had not known they had already voted and defeated it,you would not know from her speech)that we are punishing kids who came here at 2 to 5 years old and had no choice.We need to have arguements to sink this boat,because to the majority that do not follow politics closely,it is a hard aurguement to win by itself.We should remind them that this kids can go back and change that country. we should remind them that there are millions of children around the world that deserve to be here and thier parents are applying through legal channels.Most of all ,we have to put our kids first-there are only so many grants to go around,so many slots in college,so many jobs and also that this bill will lead to the same people who could be as old as 30(have not been a kid for 12 years) who are serving time in prison,wanted for crimes and that there is NO WAY anyone can prove when they came in .Every illegal alien who is between 20-30 will vlaim they came here before age 16.This also will include someone five years from now who came here in 2011 can claim they were here in1995 or whatever.Watch for them to run commercials showing kids and they will call it hate .I am sorry but if I have a birthday party for example for my son and I invite 15 kids and buy enough birthday cake and pizza for 15 kids and 30 illegal aliens show up with their 50 kids uninvited and begin to want to eat,it is not hate to tell them there is only enough for my kids and they will have to pay for a party of thier own.This acually happen a fews years ago at aparty my freind was having for his kids I was at in a public park.It was very hard to tell about 20 kids who came over they could not eat the birthday cake but my freinds kids would have end up not getting any at thier own party.Someone should show up on Dick Durbins ESTATE with illegals and thier kids and see how quickly he has them escorted off when we annouce they want to move in.There is not one bit of difference in somone moving into my house with thier kids while I am at work and breaking in to my country.

Southern Democrats Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Robert Byrd of West Virginia all voted against the Dream Act.

AR and LA represent the "border" of the border states!!!!! Also, Oklahoma has pushed the illegals towards them.

Dixie