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Congressman: 'Close to 250' House Members Ready Defund Obamacare Today

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by Matthew Boyle 20 Sep 2013, 2:07 AM PDT 430 post a comment
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) said he expects there to be somewhere close to 250 House members to vote for the plan to defund Obamacare in the Continuing Resolution (CR) on Friday, when House GOP leadership brings the plan up for a vote.

“I would predict that will we get closer to 250 votes,” Meadows said at a Conversations with Conservatives (CWC) press event that the Heritage Foundation’s Rob Bluey moderated on Thursday. “If you look at the Democrats, 25 of the most competitive Democratic races are outlined. Twenty-one of those people voted with us to delay the individual mandate. Now if that says that they aren’t paying attention to what the people say back home I don’t know what is. They’re having to vote so that they justify that.
Meadows added that “I’m hopeful that we get an overwhelming majority tomorrow, and I believe that we will.”
Meadows is hardly the only Republican showing confidence with this battle. On a conference call with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) said “the American people [are] finally taking their government back.”
“It’s time to realize that the power of our government is in the hands of the people,” Salmon said. “The great tsunami, as the Senator called it, or the tidal wave of phone calls, coming in to every congressional office, every Senate office, demanding that their voices be heard, that this atrocity that will kill jobs, that will kill our economy, that has already hurt countless people, and will continue to hurt more and more people, by forcing them out of their jobs. Every fast food chain in America has changed their full time staff to part time staff. That’s not what the president promised everybody. So, we’re going to hold the line and I believe that the Senate [GOP] is going to do everything it possibly can to beat Harry Reid on every front on his chicanery and overcome. The most important thing of all is we’re unified. The conservatives in the House and the conservatives in the Senate are united. We’re not going to stop with anything short of a victory.”
At the CWC event on Thursday, Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL) said he is seeing Republicans in Congress unite. “What I’m seeing in this conference and I’ve been here for almost nine months, is a calling together,” Yoho said. “And I think what you’re seeing in members on both sides of the aisle recognize our problems are bigger than Republicans and they’re bigger than Democrats. This is a time in our nation’s history when we need to come together as Americans. I’m seeing that in here. And I’m seeing that cohesiveness develop. And let’s pray and hope that that’s what continues happening for this country to go on forward to make a better stronger America and a more competitive America.”
Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) said at the CWC event that he is excited about the vote’s prospects. “I’ve been here for two years and nine months and for the first time, we’re going to have a vote on must-pass legislation on what most of us were elected on,” Huelskamp said. “And I think that’s a good thing.”
On the conference call with Cruz and Salmon, Rep. Bridenstine said conservatives have proved to the pundits that defunding Obamacare can, in fact, be done in the Continuing Resolution.
“When it first started, a lot of people came out and said ‘technically it can’t be done,’” Bridenstine said. “’Technically, this is a Continuing Resolution and Obamacare is on the mandatory side so it can’t be defunded with a Continuing Resolution.’ And we proved that it can be defunded with a Continuing Resolution. After we proved that it could be defunded with a Continuing Resolution, then interestingly people started listening to the American people a little bit more. Then it was ‘politically, it can’t be done. We don’t have the votes. We don’t have the votes.’ We heard that over and over and over again. Well, tomorrow, we’re going to take a vote. And tomorrow we’re going to find out in the House of Representatives that we do, in fact, have the votes. And then it’s going to go to the Senate.”
Bridenstine said conservatives may in fact be able to defund Obamacare in the Senate, too, just like the House.
“Interestingly, everybody is going to say that the Senate can’t prevail,” Bridenstine said. “But they have said over and over again, and Ted Cruz said it just right. The pundits were saying it can’t be done. But the reason we have come this far is because of how many people have been reaching out to their members of Congress, how many people have been talking to their friends and their neighbors and going to DontFundIt.com and signing the petition and getting their friends and neighbors to sign the petition. It has absolutely changed the dynamic of this conversation.”

Please keep calling people, we are winning!, Thank you Patriots!

I hope everyone understands Obama care is about redistribution, control and government access to health care money, we are in deep trouble folks, people like O'Reilly, Carl Rove and others who constantly tell people not to fight on health care are incorrect, win or lose we must fight.

House passes spending bill that would defund Obamacare, but measure is expected to fail in Senate.

House GOP launches shutdown battle by voting to defund Obamacare

By Tom Cohen, CNN
updated 11:36 AM EDT, Fri September 20, 2013




STORY HIGHLIGHTS

• NEW: The GOP-led House passes a spending plan that defunds Obamacare
• President Obama and Democrats reject the measure, setting up a budget showdown
• Without a new spending resolution, the government shuts down starting October 1
• Another fiscal showdown is likely later in October over the debt ceiling

Washington (CNN) -- With one vote on Friday, the Republican-led House launched the latest spending battle in Congress -- one that could bring a government shutdown in less than two weeks.
By a 230-189 vote almost strictly on party lines, the House passed a short-term government spending plan that would eliminate all funding for Obamacare.
The measure now goes to the Democratic-led Senate, which is certain to reject the provision that defunds President Barack Obama's signature legislative achievement of his first term.

In legislative jargon, the House passed a continuing resolution that would keep the government funded for the first 11 weeks of the fiscal year that begins October 1.
The controversy involves the provision demanded by the GOP's conservative wing and agreed to by House Speaker John Boehner that eliminates all funding for the 2010 health care reforms popularly known as Obamacare.
Approval by the House will set in motion a Capitol Hill showdown that will continue through October, when the nation's debt ceiling must be increased so the government can pay all its bills.
The two-stage process includes a possible government shutdown at the end of the current fiscal year on September 30 if there is no compromise on a spending resolution, followed by a potentially even more rancorous debate over raising the debt ceiling.

Government shutdown: Again? Seriously?

Conservatives tie Obamacare to budget talks
Tea party conservatives who have pledged to fight implementation of Obamacare consider the current budget debate their last major chance to undermine it, because the brunt of the new system takes effect with the start of fiscal year 2014 on October 1.
They demand a halt to funding for the signature program from President Barack Obama's first term, and they seem indifferent about forcing a government shutdown if that doesn't happen.
"I will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund Obamacare," Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas said Thursday, threatening a filibuster and "any procedural means necessary."
However, more moderate Republicans in the Democratic-led Senate call the defunding effort a waste of time.
Veteran GOP Sen. John McCain of Arizona told CNN on Thursday that because of the chamber's Democratic majority, "we will not repeal or defund Obamacare" in the Senate "and to think we can is not rational."
In addition, the White House said Thursday that Obama would veto the House spending resolution defunding Obamacare if it reaches his desk.
A compromise sought by Boehner and fellow GOP House leaders would have allowed a symbolic vote on the defunding provision that the Senate would then strip out.
The result would have been what legislators call a "clean" final version that simply extended current levels of government spending for about two months of the new fiscal year, allowing time for further negotiations on the debt ceiling.

Worries about Obamacare? Fear not

However, conservative opposition to the compromise made Boehner agree to a tougher version that made overall government funding contingent on eliminating money for Obamacare.
Moderate Republicans question the strategy, but fear a right-wing backlash in the 2014 primaries if they go against the conservative wing.
In reference to the divisions in the House, McCain said it is "pretty obvious that (Boehner) has great difficulties within his own conference."
On the House floor on Friday, legislators warned of the serious consequences of a government shutdown. The last shutdown, which lasted a total of 28 days during the Clinton administration more than 17 years ago, cost the nation more than $1 billion, according to congressional researchers.
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California said the intent of the Republican measure is to shut down the government, calling it a "wolf in wolf's clothing."
GOP Rep. Harold Rogers of Kentucky, who chairs the House Appropriations Committee, said "a government shutdown is a political game in which everyone loses."
"It shirks one of our most basic duties as members of Congress and it puts our national security at stake," he added.

Opinion: The real problem with Obamacare

In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada made clear on Thursday that any plan to defund Obamacare would be dead on arrival. Instead, the Senate is expected to strip the measure of all provisions defunding Obamacare and send it back to the House.
"They're simply postponing an inevitable choice they must face," Reid said of House Republicans.
Boehner would then have to decide whether to put it to a vote, even though that could undermine his already weakened leadership position by having the measure pass with only a few dozen moderate Republicans joining Democrats in support.
If he refuses to bring the Senate version to the floor for a vote, a shutdown would ensue.
"Will he act as the captain of the entire House of Representatives or remain a captive of his right wing Republican mates?" asked Democratic Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan. "Will he, as he acts, worry mainly about the risk to his speakership or the risk to our entire nation? House Republicans taking the ship over the cliff would take the nation's economic well-being with it."
Polls showing a decrease in public support for the health care reforms embolden the Republican stance. Meanwhile, Democratic resolve is bolstered by surveys showing most people oppose a government shutdown and more would blame Republicans if it happens.
House GOP: defund Obamacare or shut government down

Shutdown scenario
Voices across the political spectrum warn against a shutdown, including Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and Republican strategist Karl Rove.
"Even the defund strategy's authors say they don't want a government shutdown. But their approach means we'll get one," Rove argued in an op-ed published Thursday by the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/20/politics/congress-spending-showdown/index.html

"Moderate Republicans question the strategy, but fear a right-wing backlash in the 2014 primaries if they go against the conservative wing."

Backlash laughs, we'll be out for blood, count on it! don't want a shutdown? Then the senate must kill Obamacare, othewise no deal!

Getting tired of hearing about Obamacare. Nothing with it will change at this point until after its had a year to fail. I really think the DNC and GOP are trying to keep the Obamacare debate afloat knowing this and just using it as a smoke screen for other more serious and more urgent issues. Namely immigration reform/immigration enforcement.

Keep everyone staring at one hand while the other hand is concealing the real issue that threatens to destroy everything. Obamacare can be repealed down the road, even if it waits until after the midterms or next pres election. But if Immigration Reform passes all of the Obamacare talk is for nothing as you you now lost the country. Obamacare isn't the end of the US as much as I hate it, but immigration reform is.

I'm constantly bombarded with emails from PACS and Tea Party groups talking about Obamacare this and Obamacare that. Yet the ONLY emails I get talking about immigration and illegal aliens is from ALIPAC, FAIR, and NumbersUSA. We really needa get the Tea Party, and other PACS off the Obamacare wagon as even with the House voting to defund it won't matter for now. But if they can make us look the other way to slide in immigration reform *lite* behind our backs we're dead as a country.