Thread: New SF ID cards for residents - whether in the country legal

Haven't seen this posted yet, but if it has, my apology:
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New SF ID cards for residents - whether in the country legally or not
Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, November 13, 2007

(11-13) 15:56 PST San Francisco - --

The Board of Supervisors voted today to make San Francisco the largest U.S. city to issue municipal identification cards to its residents, regardless of whether or not they are in the country legally.

Supervisor Tom Ammiano, the legislation's author, said the availability of identification cards is a smart public safety measure because it would make residents living on the social margins of San Francisco more likely to seek the help of police and could give them more access to banking services.

"People are afraid to report crimes," Ammiano said, referring to illegal immigrants who avoid local law enforcement authorities over fear of being arrested or deported by federal immigration officials.

The legislation would require companies doing business with San Francisco to accept the municipal card as a legitimate form of identification - except in cases where other state and federal laws require other forms of proof of age, name and residence.

Under San Francisco's sanctuary ordinance, it already is city policy that no municipal government personnel or resources may be used to assist federal immigration officials in the arrest and deportation of illegal immigrants.

Ammiano said banking institutions in San Francisco have signaled their willingness to accept the municipal ID card for the purpose of setting up accounts. He noted that people without bank accounts are frequently more vulnerable to theft and robbery.

The legislation, which was approved 10-1 on the first of two readings, has the support of Mayor Gavin Newsom. Supervisor Sean Elsbernd voted against the measure, noting afterward that his opposition was primarily financial in that the city doesn't know how much implementing the program will cost.

The city of New Haven, Conn., began issuing municipal identification cards earlier this year.

Supporters of tougher enforcement of U.S. immigration laws argue that local identification card programs have the effect of legitimizing the decisions of people who entered or have remained in the country illegally and make it more difficult for the federal government to enforce those laws.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... .DTL&tsp=1

The Republic of San Francisco shouldn't even be discussed. They have always been the "fringe" and believe me it looks like fringe! Nothing surprises me about SF. Personally i would stop all funding for them. They hate the military therefore let them protect themselves! In fact ALL illegals should move up there.

Personally, I don't think this plan differs that much from Spitzer's attempt at giving illegal aliens driver's licenses. Giving them I.D. cards is like saying we're cool with your illegal status. Furthermore, it's aiding and abetting because these cards will be used to aid illegals in blending into society. The article even says it'll help them open bank accounts.

We got new York to back down...how about here??????

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

We got new York to back down...how about here??????

Have you ever been to the mecca of Liberalism before? lol It took them 10 years of inviting the homeless to relieve themselves in their yards before they figured out this was not healthy for anyone. (That was not a joke but an actual fact that was reported in the chronicle.)

Well. it will be easier to identify illegal aliens, as legal immigrants and citizens would not want to bother with ANOTHER ID card.

Originally Posted by cayla99

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

We got new York to back down...how about here??????

Have you ever been to the mecca of Liberalism before? lol It took them 10 years of inviting the homeless to relieve themselves in their yards before they figured out this was not healthy for anyone. (That was not a joke but an actual fact that was reported in the chronicle.)

here is the link lol

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... CSILM6.DTL

If the feds are even moderately serious about stopping illegal immigration, they're going to have to crackdown on these sanctuary cities.

San Francisco has been in it's own world since the '60's.

WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS. I HAVE NOTICED MORE AND MORE HISPANIC MEN HANGING AROUND THE STREET CORNERS. AND THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. I WISH THEY WOULD CUT OFF FUNDING TO THIS CITY TO FORCE THEM TO CHANGE THEIR STATUS.

AND BTW....CAYLA IS CORRECT. THE HOMELESS DO RELIEVE THEMSELVES IN PEOPLE'S YARDS. NOT ONLY THAT BUT STORE OWNERS HAVE TO GET A BUCKET AND RINSE OUT THEIR DOORWAYS BEFORE THEY OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN THE MORNING. AND IN SOME CASES IT IS NOT ONLY URINE, BUT FECES.....IN THE DOORWAY. MANY OF THE HOMELESS ARE MENTALLY ILL SO IT REALLY ISNT THEIR FAULT. THERE IS NO CARE OR MED FOR THE MENTALLY ILL.