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    Strange Rasmussen Poll

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    44% in California Favor Law Like Arizona’s, 48% Oppose
    Saturday, May 15, 2010

    Forty-four percent (44%) of Likely Voters in California favor a law like the one just adopted in Arizona that requires police to check the immigration status of those they stop if they suspect them of being illegal immigrants.

    But a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds that slightly more (48%) oppose such a law.

    Nationally, 59% support a law like Arizona’s.

    Sixty-four percent (64%) of voters in California are at least somewhat concerned that a law like this will violate the civil rights of some U.S. citizens. This includes 44% who are Very Concerned. Thirty-four percent (34%) are not very or not at all concerned about this.

    Critics of Arizona’s law, like the Los Angeles City Council which has voted to boycott the state, complain that it is racial profiling. Supporters in Arizona say the law is needed because the federal government is not enforcing immigration law.

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    This statewide telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters in California was conducted on May 12, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/-4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    Most California voters (54%) favor a welcoming immigration policy that excludes only national security threats, criminals and those who are coming to live off the welfare system. This compares to 58% nationally.

    Twenty-six percent (26%) in California disagree with a policy that has that goal, and 20% more are not sure.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of male voters in California favor a law like Arizona’s, but 52% of female voters are opposed.W

    Seventy-six percent (76%) of Republicans like the law that cracks down on illegal immigration. Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Democrats and 55% of voters not affiliated with either party oppose it.

    Democrats and unaffiliateds are also much more concerned about possible civil rights violations against U.S. citizens.

    Republicans are more strongly in favor of an immigration policy with the goal of excluding only national security threats, criminals and those who come to live off welfare.

    Embattled Democratic incumbent Barbara Boxer remains in a virtual tie with Republican challenger Tom Campbell, but two other GOP hopefuls are still failing to gain traction in California’s race for the U.S. Senate.
    Why would 51% of men in California support an AZ law while 52% of women oppose it? That makes no sense at all. That would totally screw up their poll. Something went wrong on this one, Rasmussen. What's up with you? Talking to illegal nannies or their female employers during the day when you call? If this poll is accurate, then the women in California need to pay for illegal immigration.
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    Re: Strange Rasmussen Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Judy

    http://tinyurl.com/2ffk2b7

    44% in California Favor Law Like Arizona’s, 48% Oppose
    Saturday, May 15, 2010

    Forty-four percent (44%) of Likely Voters in California favor a law like the one just adopted in Arizona that requires police to check the immigration status of those they stop if they suspect them of being illegal immigrants.

    But a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds that slightly more (48%) oppose such a law.

    Nationally, 59% support a law like Arizona’s.

    Sixty-four percent (64%) of voters in California are at least somewhat concerned that a law like this will violate the civil rights of some U.S. citizens. This includes 44% who are Very Concerned. Thirty-four percent (34%) are not very or not at all concerned about this.

    Critics of Arizona’s law, like the Los Angeles City Council which has voted to boycott the state, complain that it is racial profiling. Supporters in Arizona say the law is needed because the federal government is not enforcing immigration law.

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    This statewide telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters in California was conducted on May 12, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/-4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    Most California voters (54%) favor a welcoming immigration policy that excludes only national security threats, criminals and those who are coming to live off the welfare system. This compares to 58% nationally.

    Twenty-six percent (26%) in California disagree with a policy that has that goal, and 20% more are not sure.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of male voters in California favor a law like Arizona’s, but 52% of female voters are opposed.W

    Seventy-six percent (76%) of Republicans like the law that cracks down on illegal immigration. Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Democrats and 55% of voters not affiliated with either party oppose it.

    Democrats and unaffiliateds are also much more concerned about possible civil rights violations against U.S. citizens.

    Republicans are more strongly in favor of an immigration policy with the goal of excluding only national security threats, criminals and those who come to live off welfare.

    Embattled Democratic incumbent Barbara Boxer remains in a virtual tie with Republican challenger Tom Campbell, but two other GOP hopefuls are still failing to gain traction in California’s race for the U.S. Senate.
    Why would 51% of men in California support an AZ law while 52% of women oppose it? That makes no sense at all. That would totally screw up their poll. Something went wrong on this one, Rasmussen. What's up with you? Talking to illegal nannies or their female employers during the day when you call? If this poll is accurate, then the women in California need to pay for illegal immigration.
    What they dont tell us is how many of the 500 surveyed were women and how many were men. And they also dont tell us what regions were surveyed either. They just say Californians. They also dont give a racial or ethnic breakdown. These studies can be very deceiving when done with an agenda. I would like to see the questionnaire and know how the sampling was compiled. Also, was this survey done on paper or by CATI? I can tell you from personal experience that those CATI systems are prone to losing and skewing data. I dont think there is that much difference between the opinions of men and women living in the same region and having the same life experiences. Men and women really are not that different on most issues. As illegal immigration affects both men and women I cant see there being any difference and especially not so much of a difference.
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    Now that I look at the numbers this poll is wrong. If 52% of women oppose the new law, that means that 48% of women are in favor of it. And it says 51% of men are in favor of the new law. Both 48% and 51% are higher than the claimed 44% of all surveyed being in favor. Sorry but these people need a math class. No matter how many of each gender were surveyed the final percent could not be less than both the male and female gender percents. And they should have surveyed an equal number of each gender, so it would work out to 49.5% in favor of the new law. But even if one or the other gender were surveyed less, the final combined percent could not be less than either one of the gender percents, that is impossible. They screwed this one up big time. And if they are that bad at this not to catch such an obvious error, then they really are not credible researchers.
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    I find the following statement very odd:

    "Fifty-one percent (51%) of male voters in California favor a law like Arizona’s, but 52% of female voters are opposed."

    Usually the results of a survey are not stated like this. Usually the final numbers would show either in favor or opposed for both genders. I have never seen this before ...where the percent for in favor males is given, but the percent for opposed females is given. Very weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redpony353
    Now that I look at the numbers this poll is wrong. If 52% of women oppose the new law, that means that 48% of women are in favor of it. And it says 51% of men are in favor of the new law. Both 48% and 51% are higher than the claimed 44% of all surveyed being in favor. Sorry but these people need a math class. No matter how many of each gender were surveyed the final percent could not be less than both the male and female gender percents. And they should have surveyed an equal number of each gender, so it would work out to 49.5% in favor of the new law. But even if one or the other gender were surveyed less, the final combined percent could not be less than either one of the gender percents, that is impossible. They screwed this one up big time. And if they are that bad at this not to catch such an obvious error, then they really are not credible researchers.
    Exactly! Rasmussen screwed up big time on this one. Hey Scott Rasmussen, what's up with your poll? Did you hire National Council of La Raza to conduct it for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redpony353
    I find the following statement very odd:

    "Fifty-one percent (51%) of male voters in California favor a law like Arizona’s, but 52% of female voters are opposed."

    Usually the results of a survey are not stated like this. Usually the final numbers would show either in favor or opposed for both genders. I have never seen this before ...where the percent for in favor males is given, but the percent for opposed females is given. Very weird.
    Exactly. This poll stinks big time.
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    Re: Strange Rasmussen Poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy

    http://tinyurl.com/2ffk2b7

    44% in California Favor Law Like Arizona’s, 48% Oppose
    Saturday, May 15, 2010

    Forty-four percent (44%) of Likely Voters in California favor a law like the one just adopted in Arizona that requires police to check the immigration status of those they stop if they suspect them of being illegal immigrants.

    But a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds that slightly more (48%) oppose such a law.

    Nationally, 59% support a law like Arizona’s.

    Sixty-four percent (64%) of voters in California are at least somewhat concerned that a law like this will violate the civil rights of some U.S. citizens. This includes 44% who are Very Concerned. Thirty-four percent (34%) are not very or not at all concerned about this.

    Critics of Arizona’s law, like the Los Angeles City Council which has voted to boycott the state, complain that it is racial profiling. Supporters in Arizona say the law is needed because the federal government is not enforcing immigration law.

    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

    This statewide telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters in California was conducted on May 12, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/-4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    Most California voters (54%) favor a welcoming immigration policy that excludes only national security threats, criminals and those who are coming to live off the welfare system. This compares to 58% nationally.

    Twenty-six percent (26%) in California disagree with a policy that has that goal, and 20% more are not sure.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of male voters in California favor a law like Arizona’s, but 52% of female voters are opposed.W

    Seventy-six percent (76%) of Republicans like the law that cracks down on illegal immigration. Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Democrats and 55% of voters not affiliated with either party oppose it.

    Democrats and unaffiliateds are also much more concerned about possible civil rights violations against U.S. citizens.

    Republicans are more strongly in favor of an immigration policy with the goal of excluding only national security threats, criminals and those who come to live off welfare.

    Embattled Democratic incumbent Barbara Boxer remains in a virtual tie with Republican challenger Tom Campbell, but two other GOP hopefuls are still failing to gain traction in California’s race for the U.S. Senate.
    Why would 51% of men in California support an AZ law while 52% of women oppose it? That makes no sense at all. That would totally screw up their poll. Something went wrong on this one, Rasmussen. What's up with you? Talking to illegal nannies or their female employers during the day when you call? If this poll is accurate, then the women in California need to pay for illegal immigration.
    What they dont tell us is how many of the 500 surveyed were women and how many were men. And they also dont tell us what regions were surveyed either. They just say Californians. They also dont give a racial or ethnic breakdown. These studies can be very deceiving when done with an agenda. I would like to see the questionnaire and know how the sampling was compiled. Also, was this survey done on paper or by CATI? I can tell you from personal experience that those CATI systems are prone to losing and skewing data. I dont think there is that much difference between the opinions of men and women living in the same region and having the same life experiences. Men and women really are not that different on most issues. As illegal immigration affects both men and women I cant see there being any difference and especially not so much of a difference.
    There isn't any difference between genders on this issue amongst likely voters. Illegal aliens with buns in the oven or a tray of muffins already out are the only "women" in the United States who would look at this issue any differently than American women, and the poll is supposedly amongst "likely voters" which means it's supposed to be a poll of US citizens. Something went very very wrong with this poll.
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