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    Latinos really do succeed at moving up, blending in

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    July 6, 2006, 8:04PM

    Latinos really do succeed at moving up, blending in
    Numbers tell a story of assimilation by immigrants

    By TYLER COWEN and DANIEL M. ROTHSCHILD


    BENEATH the surface of the immigration debate is a debate about shared values. If we look at just three of those values — the English language, family and hard work — we see a higher level of Latino assimilation than is often presumed.

    Despite claims to the contrary, census data show that most Latino immigrants learn and speak English quite well. Only about 2.5 percent of American residents speak Spanish but not English. The majority of residents of Spanish-speaking households speak English "very well."

    Only 7 percent of the children of Latino immigrants speak Spanish as a primary language, and virtually none of their children do. Just as they did a century ago, immigrants largely come knowing little English. But they learn, and their children use it as a primary language. The United States is not becoming a bilingual nation.

    A key indicator is the rise of the English-language Latino publication market. National magazines such as Hispanic Business (circulation 265,000) and Latina (circulation 2 million) are published in English. So are regional publications in cities including New York, Houston and Los Angeles. The reason is simple: English is becoming the language of Hispanic-American commerce and culture. Just as few Jewish-interest magazines are published in Yiddish, in a generation most Latino-interest publications will probably be in English.

    The family has long been the core social unit in America, and immigrants share that value. Census data show that 62 percent of immigrants over age 15 are married, compared to 52 percent of natives. Only 6 percent of Latino adults are divorced, compared with 10 percent of whites and 12 percent of African-Americans. Latino immigrants are more likely to live in multigenerational households rather than just visiting grandparents a couple of times a year.

    Most Latino immigrants want to become U.S. citizens. This process takes years, so recent immigrants are not a good barometer. But according to the 2000 Census, the majority of Latinos who entered the United States before 1980 have become citizens.

    And second-generation immigrants are more likely to marry natives than immigrants, further assimilating their children. The majority of immigrants also own their own homes, a key part of the American dream.

    Immigrants from Central and South America share the American predilection for hard work and economic advancement. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicate Hispanic men are more likely than white men to be in the labor force. While immigrant Latinas initially lag behind native women, Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn of the National Bureau of Economic Research have shown that, despite initial inclinations to be stay-at-home moms, immigrant women quickly assimilate into the American work force.

    The children of Latino immigrants do especially well at work. James P. Smith of Rand Corp. has shown that the children and grandchildren of Latino immigrants come very close to closing educational and income gaps with native whites. This is the same as it has always been in American immigration: Newcomers know what keeps them outside the mainstream and work hard to make sure their children do better. Immigrant Latino men make about half of what native whites do; their grandsons earn about 78 percent of the salaries of their native white friends.

    Studies such as Smith's, because they track trends over time, are better at discovering patterns of assimilation than studies that compare immigrants in 2006 to natives. The latter present a snapshot; they can't demonstrate long-term trends.

    It's true that recent immigrants have not been closing the wage gap as fast as earlier immigrants. But David Card of the University of California at Berkeley, John DiNardo of the University of Michigan and Eugena Estes of Princeton attribute this to an increase in inequality nationwide. Controlling for this, Latino immigrants are doing as well as immigrants a century ago.

    Of course, assimilation is not instantaneous. First-generation immigrants often hold on to the language and customs of the old country. Some immigrants ghettoize themselves and avoid the mainstream. But the overall patterns are far more positive than many recent debates have suggested.

    Let's not forget that assimilating into American culture means taking the bad with the good. Robert Sampson of Harvard has found that immigrants are 45 percent less likely than third-generation Americans to commit violent crime. Divorce rates increase with each generation.

    For all the rhetoric on both sides, the evidence deserves a closer look. Latino immigrants, like generations of immigrants before, are entering the mainstream of life in the United States. Ours is the best country in the world at assimilating immigrants. This should be a badge of honor, and one that we wear proudly.

    Cowen is a professor of economics at George Mason University and general director of its Mercatus Center. Rothschild is associate director of the Global Prosperity Initiative at the Mercatus Center. This article originally appeared in The Washington Post.
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    Re: Latinos really do succeed at moving up, blending in

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    July 6, 2006, 8:04PM

    Latinos really do succeed at moving up, blending in
    Numbers tell a story of assimilation by immigrants

    By TYLER COWEN and DANIEL M. ROTHSCHILD


    Robert Sampson of Harvard has found that immigrants are 45 percent less likely than third-generation Americans to commit violent crime.
    I wonder how he skewed the data to come up with that conclusion?
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    All the best to the illegals on success as long as it is back in their legal home country.
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    Most Latino immigrants want to become U.S. citizens. This process takes years, so recent immigrants are not a good barometer. But according to the 2000 Census, the majority of Latinos who entered the United States before 1980 have become citizens.
    Studies such as Smith's, because they track trends over time, are better at discovering patterns of assimilation than studies that compare immigrants in 2006 to natives. The latter present a snapshot; they can't demonstrate long-term trends.
    My Cuban friends have told me that the Cubans coming in now, have a totally different attitude, then those that came in the 1960-70's. That they are less educated, expect to be "taken care of" , and more hostile, even to other Cubans. Of course, this is NOT true of all of them, just a general trend, noted by Cubans.

    attribute this to an increase in inequality nationwide
    Oh, please. Here, they seem to be more equal. Affirmative action. Couldn't have to do with a decreased educational level in recent illegal immigrants, could it?
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    This article belies what our everyday life experiences tell us. The press is once against trying to misrepresent the real picture. I guess they think if we read articles like the above we won't trust our own common sense. Bi-lingual battles, Spanish language on almost everything. A multitude of Mexican flags protesting in OUR streets. Aztlan. Rampant crime from document fraud to driving infractions and even worse. Hispanic culture encroaching on our everyday lifes and in every area. Hatred of white America...
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    Re: Latinos really do succeed at moving up, blending in

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    Despite claims to the contrary, census data show that most Latino immigrants learn and speak English quite well. Only about 2.5 percent of American residents speak Spanish but not English. The majority of residents of Spanish-speaking households speak English "very well."
    Hey, alright! I guess we can stop printing everything in Spanish then!!!! Woohoo!
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    Despite claims to the contrary, census data show that most Latino immigrants learn and speak English quite well. Only about 2.5 percent of American residents speak Spanish but not English. The majority of residents of Spanish-speaking households speak English "very well."
    Too bad they didn't also state the FACT that the CENSUS data is lacking due to the fact that ILLEGALS refuse to be counted for fear of government intervention.

    Guess this article is debunked before it leaves the starting gate.
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    AlturaCT - you are exactly correct. This article contradicts what we see and hear in our communities every day.

    I seriously doubt if the percentage of people speaking Spanish was so low everything would not be in 2 languages.

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    I agree that most of the illegal aliens in this country do not speak english, I am not sure where they get their information from but it is not reality. And yes why would they print all the labels on products in two languages if they spoke english, Duh?
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    And second-generation immigrants are more likely to marry natives than immigrants
    Gee, I wonder why that is????

    This article is a bunch of junk.
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