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    Illegal Immigrants gravitate towards Arizona border

    NOGALES, ARIZ. -- Along a rugged stretch of the Mexican border here in southern Arizona, U.S. authorities captured 687 illegal immigrants in a 24-hour period last week, three times the number captured near San Diego. During the past eight months, agents have apprehended 168,000 migrants along this sector of the border.

    The border crossers are so determined, and so impervious to a long-running buildup of federal agents and technology, that few here think President Obama's recent decision to dispatch 1,200 National Guard soldiers and $500 million will make much difference.

    "I doubt it, frankly," said Don Severe, a vocal opponent of illegal immigration who favors stronger measures, including certain incarceration. "It sounds good, but what are they going to do? We have a very serious problem."

    Arizona, home of a controversial new law that makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally, has become the leakiest portion of the nearly 2,000-mile border. The continuing flow of illegal immigrants, compounded by a rise in narcotics traffic and the slaying of an Arizona rancher, perhaps by a border crosser, has triggered a fresh fight over immigration policy, animating activities on both sides of the debate.

    Thousands of opponents of the Arizona law, known as SB 1070, were expected to march through the streets of Phoenix on Saturday, demanding federal immigration reform. Meanwhile, led by Sen. John McCain and Gov. Jan Brewer, Republican politicians here are calling for stricter border security measures while waiting for the law -- broadly popular in Arizona but facing significant legal challenges -- to take effect.

    The issue has polarized the community in ways that residents say are new and disturbing. "I have seen situations in families where they are fighting," said the Rev. Vili Valderrama, a priest at San Felipe de Jesus parish in heavily Hispanic Nogales. He said benefactors who support the Arizona law have vowed to withhold contributions from the Tucson Catholic Diocese because clergy publicly oppose it.

    "There are not a lot of places in this community where you can have a civil dialogue," said the Rev. Randy Mayer, pastor of Good Shepherd United Church of Christ in Sahuarita, 50 miles north of Nogales. "The conversation has changed in its tone. It has become much more polarized, much more hostile. As a pastor, I can see there's much more tension in my congregation and also in the community."


    Nogales is the heart of a 262-mile stretch of border defined by sharp rises, steep ravines and brutal desert heat. As border controls have been tightened elsewhere, including construction of a border fence in parts of Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico, Mexican migrants and smugglers have gravitated to the 90,000-square-mile area known by U.S. Customs and Border Protection as the Tucson Sector.

    "When you plug a hole in the wall, the water looks for another spot to flow through. Arizona is that spot," said Nogales police chief Jeff Kirkham, who reported that immigrants are "going over the wall, going through the wall or through tunnels."

    Others try to make their way though the remote desert where the high fence stops. Once across the border, they face a daunting trek that can stretch 30 miles or more in heat approaching 100 degrees. Agents staff checkpoints and crisscross the area, supported by millions of dollars worth of radar, sensors, cameras, surveillance aircraft and computer technology.

    Since 2006, staffing of the Tucson Sector has grown by 30 percent, to about 3,200 officers. But immigrants from across the globe keep coming over the border -- alone or in groups, sometimes guided by smugglers, sometimes neatly dressed at official crossings carrying fake papers.

    On a typical day, nearly 1 million people cross from Mexico into the United States, according to U.S. government figures. Roughly 270,000 vehicles cross the Southwest border every 24 hours, along with about 57,000 truck, rail and sea containers. Sixty percent of the Mexican fruit and vegetables entering the United States comes through Nogales.
    "This is our busy time of year," said Robert L. Boatright, deputy chief of the Tucson Sector, talking about illegal immigrants, not produce. He said it would be impossible to "seal the border," as some critics demand. "The number of agents it would take 24/7 would be incredible. "

    Border agents have "close to daily" encounters with smugglers carrying guns, most linked to drug smuggling, he said. In announcing the National Guard deployment, which echoes earlier approaches, Obama emphasized the need to slow the drugs flowing north, as well as guns and cash heading south to the cartels waging war on Mexican state authority.

    By the same token, the number of captured border crossers -- an indication of the volume of people who are getting though illegally -- dropped 41 percent between 2005 and 2009. The border is at "an unprecedented state of control," Boatright said. "I know that's hard to believe with what you see and read right now."

    Although the flow of drugs appears to be rising, Kirkham said, Nogales's 64 police officers are not seeing a spillover of violence from Mexico. Property crimes have been static, and Nogales has charted just one homicide in the past three years.

    "People that do cross here, they want to get out of this area as quickly and quietly as possible," Kirkham said. "All roads lead north."

    So far, 210 miles of the 262-mile Tucson Sector border is fenced. McCain, facing GOP primary challenger J.D. Hayworth, a border hawk, made waves by declaring in a campaign advertisement filmed in Nogales: "Complete the danged fence."

    Boatright said the rough terrain makes finishing the fence impossible or unnecessary.

    "We're looking at a very small portion that we need to address," Boatright said. "I'm talking two or three miles."

    McCain is seeking 6,000 more National Guard soldiers, including 3,000 in Arizona. Yet in Nogales, Gustavo Lozano, an activist who favors comprehensive reform, believes that no measures now in the pipeline will stop illegal immigrants from coming.

    "Whatever fear they build up, whatever troops come to the border," Lozano said, "people are still going to cross."
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    "Boatright said the rough terrain makes finishing the fence impossible or unnecessary."

    Another excuse for cowards. And unnecessary? Where the heck is this guy's brain!

    "We're looking at a very small portion that we need to address," Boatright said. "I'm talking two or three miles."

    A whole heck of a lot of people can cross through 2-3 miles...

    "McCain is seeking 6,000 more National Guard soldiers, including 3,000 in Arizona. Yet in Nogales, Gustavo Lozano, an activist who favors comprehensive reform, believes that no measures now in the pipeline will stop illegal immigrants from coming.

    "Whatever fear they build up, whatever troops come to the border," Lozano said, "people are still going to cross."


    Put enough BP and troops on the border and stop preventing them from doing their job! Leathel force if necessary. Maybe they should burn all the vegetation on the border for a mile inland and just plant very low lying brush sparsely and by the river to prevent erosion. The illegals have trashed the area anyway.
    As Aristotle said, “Tolerance and apathy are the first virtue of a dying civilization.â€

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    Although it has become more difficult to remain in Arizona with the second longest border out of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas it is still an important place to cross.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    With the promise of amnesty from our president, no wonder these folks are trying to break in. I blame Obama and the feds for refusal to defend the border. Personally, I'm in favor of drones, but I don't think that's PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Although it has become more difficult to remain in Arizona with the second longest border out of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas it is still an important place to cross.
    its only important because Tucson and Phoenix are not exactly far from the border and if the illegals can get to either town, they know they are pretty much safe.

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    Stop supporting illegals, no more anchor babys, no more immediate citizenship at birth, no free housing, no welfare to work dollars.

    The flow won't stop until these people realize they won't be living on American taxpayers dollars anymore.

    Aren't we tired of filling in the pay gap for employers of illegals? They pay under the table, or even above due to bogus SS numbers and fake green cards. We pay the illegal's medical, dental, education, food budget and housing.

    How many remember the stink about Walmart employees not being eligible for benefits due to short work hours? America's citys welcomed Walmart with open arms, city taxpayers were slow to realize their city, property and state tax was needed to provide medical, dental, food stamps, daycare, etc. because Walmart did not schedule some employees for full-time hours, or even 32 hours, thereby the employee did not qualify for benefits.

    American employers learned from the biggest. low pay for illegals, let the taxpayers foot the bill for everything else. Money talks people, that's why there is little cooperation in requiring E-verify be used by all companies. That's why Homeland Security was stopped in it's tracks when it was about to send it's letter along with the Social Security Administration's "No Match" letter alerting employers about problem SS numbers and requiring that the employee had a certain time frame to clear up the problem or be terminated.

    This influx of illegals will never stop until employers stop offering them work without a legitimate green card, temporary or otherwise. Anyone with a work visa or green card does not have to cross the desert.

    Let's work on unmasking the employers who make the bucks on our backs along with voting the worthless politicians who support them out of office.

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