Teenage Illegal Immigrant Crosses Border To Get Abortion. Now It’s Up To A Judge If S

Teenage Illegal Immigrant Crosses Border To Get Abortion. Now It’s Up To A Judge If She Can

Posted By Grace Carr On 10:51 AM 10/11/2017

A judge is deciding Wednesday whether the state of Texas must help a teenage illegal immigrant get an abortion — a case that could have serious ramifications.

Even though the 17-year-old illegal immigrant received a judicial waiver allowing her — a minor — to get an abortion, the officers detaining her refuse to take her to an abortion clinic American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) lawyer, Rochelle Garza, told The Associated Press on Tuesday. She refused to make public the girl’s name or country of origin, citing privacy reasons.

“I feel like they are trying to coerce me to carry my pregnancy to term,” the girl told a federal court earlier in October, explaining that she was taken to a crisis pregnancy center instead of an abortion clinic.

The ACLU backs her claim, insisting that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) violates her rights by preventing her from getting an abortion.

The ACLU’s original lawsuit posited that the HHS violated the First Amendment by refusing the girl an abortion. Texas’ state attorney doesn’t quite see it the same way.

Illegal immigrants do not have a constitutional right to abortion, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement on Tuesday. Ruling in the girl’s favor “will create a right to abortion for anyone on earth who enters the U.S. illegally,” Paxton said. “And with that right, countless others undoubtedly would follow. Texas must not become a sanctuary state for abortions,” he added.

“As far as I’m aware, abortion is legal in this country,” Garza said in disagreement with Paxton. “Nobody has the right to force her to have a child against her will,” she added. Garza did not indicate whether the girl would pay her own abortion or whether the state would cover it via emergency funding if the judge rules in her favor.

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Really Ken? Have you deported her yet? Or are you a fake and using your position to foster anchor babies? Is this your contribution to stopping illegal immigration, laying the law down on pregnant girls while your state is the number one running road for the drug cartels and all the scum, scourge and poison they haul in here? Disgusting. Get that girl to a clinic she wants to go to and then haul her ass back out of here.

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Really Ken? Have you deported her yet? Or are you a fake and using your position to foster anchor babies? Is this your contribution to stopping illegal immigration, laying the law down on pregnant girls while your state is the number one running road for the drug cartels and all the scum, scourge and poison they haul in here? Disgusting. Get that girl to a clinic she wants to go to and then haul her ass back out of here.

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Are you actually saying the girl does have a constitutional right to an abortion on American soil? Sort of hypocritical, don't you think? I know you've said in the past that illegal aliens have no constitutional rights in our country.

The Texas Attorney General doesn't have the authority to deport an illegal alien. The federal government needs to deport the girl and her unborn child ASAP. Her pregnancy issue is between her and Mexico. It's not our problem and she should receive no benefits here in America, including an abortion. I think Governor Gregg Abbott and AG Ken Paxton are doing a great job in Texas. While it's not the states job to secure the border, they've went above and beyond what is expected to do so.

You're obviously looking at this as a woman's rights issue, while I'm looking at it as a states effort to prevent giving benefits to illegal aliens. I say good on AG Ken Paxton!

Deport her now and her unborn child.

Let her take care of it on her soil.

People cannot just come here ILLEGALLY and get medical treatment...go to hospital on your soil.

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Are you actually saying the girl does have a constitutional right to an abortion on American soil? Sort of hypocritical, don't you think? I know you've said in the past that illegal aliens have no constitutional rights in our country.

The Texas Attorney General doesn't have the authority to deport an illegal alien. The federal government needs to deport the girl and her unborn child ASAP. Her pregnancy issue is between her and Mexico. It's not our problem and she should receive no benefits here in America, including an abortion. I think Governor Gregg Abbott and AG Ken Paxton are doing a great job in Texas. While it's not the states job to secure the border, they've went above and beyond what is expected to do so.

You're obviously looking at this as a woman's rights issue, while I'm looking at it as a states effort to prevent giving benefits to illegal aliens. I say good on AG Ken Paxton!

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If she brought money to pay for an abortion, time is of the essence, get her to the clinic she was headed to, allow her the time for the procedure, just takes a few hours, wait outside the door if you want, and then return her to wherever she came from.

It's common sense.

I'm confused on what the State of Texas has to do with it. The federal agency DHHS has custody of her, they're the ones who took her to a pregnancy crisis center to waste time trying to talk her out of an abortion against her will.

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Deport her now and her unborn child.

Let her take care of it on her soil.

People cannot just come here ILLEGALLY and get medical treatment...go to hospital on your soil.

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It might be illegal in her country or portion of the country where she's from. That's probably why she came here. I hope the judge lets her have her abortion in exchange for voluntary immediate deportation thereafter. She doesn't need to go to a hospital, she just goes to a clinic for a few hours. Very simple. Very inexpensive, she probably has the money for it which is why they aren't saying one way or another, so this would be much cheaper than detaining her, we've already spent more taxpayer money on the whole mess than what an abortion costs. Feds can and should move her out of Texas. They can move her anywhere in the country including back to Mexico or wherever she's from.

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If she brought money to pay for an abortion, time is of the essence, get her to the clinic she was headed to, allow her the time for the procedure, just takes a few hours, wait outside the door if you want, and then return her to wherever she came from.

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Something tells me she expects the state of Texas to pay the bill. If not, why didn't the lawyer just say she planned on covering the cost herself?

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Garza did not indicate whether the girl would pay her own abortion or whether the state would cover it via emergency funding if the judge rules in her favor.

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Forcing the state to pay the bill would amount to a state funded government benefit. No benefits for illegal aliens and no rewards for crossing the border illegally!

Oh...so the Judge will let any pregnant parasite come here and have an abortion...and then just load her up on a bus to the border?

I call BS on that.

Ship her out of here now.

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Something tells me she expects the state of Texas to pay the bill. If not, why didn't the lawyer just say she planned on covering the cost herself?



Forcing the state paying the bill would amount to a state funded government benefit. No benefits for illegal aliens and no rewards for crossing the border illegally!

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Oh for crying out loud, she's not even in Texas custody, she's in federal custody and we've been paying out the nose since she was picked up for her detention costs including "pregnancy crisis center" costs. Wake Up.

Texas has nothing to do with this. She's in federal DHHS custody, turned over to them by Border Patrol as an unaccompanied minor, the same as they do with every illegal alien under the age of 18.

And frankly anyone in the US has the right to an abortion. That is our law and thank God for it. She already has the judicial waiver for the abortion as a minor. DHHS screwed up not taking her to an abortion clinic to complete the procedure, seems to me.

What Paxton is pushing is promoting the birthing of anchor babies during illegal alien detention on top of forcing a pregnant girl into child birth against her will. He's wrong across the board this time.

DISGUSTING!!

Sorry Judy on this one.

I do not give a rat's patottie who has custody of her...not our citizen, no our pregnancy...not our problem.

So what if something goes wrong? She sues good old USA and the State of Texas!

No freaking way...boot her out now.

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Oh...so the Judge will let any pregnant parasite come here and have an abortion...and then just load her up on a bus to the border?

I call BS on that.

Ship her out of here now.

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No, you don't "let them come here", but if they get in and need an abortion during detention, it's no different than if they need dialysis. I don't see giving one person in custody one form of medical procedure they want or need and denying another one a different procedure.

Federal inmates have access to abortions, there is no explanation at all for an illegal alien in federal detention not to have the same.

DHHS has royally screwed-up. Was Tom Price a Pro-Lifer? Is he the one responsible for this stupid policy that violates all rules and regulations for those in federal custody, not to mention violates common sense and the national interest? NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES BORN IN FEDERAL CUSTODY. What in the hell are people thinking??!! This is a no-brainer. Get her to the damn clinic and deport her ass out of here.

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Sorry Judy on this one.

I do not give a rat's patottie who has custody of her...not our citizen, no our pregnancy...not our problem.

So what if something goes wrong? She sues good old USA and the State of Texas!

No freaking way...boot her out now.

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Texas has nothing to do with it. She's in FEDERAL CUSTODY. What if something goes wrong in childbirth and her family sues good old USA? Her risk of something "going wrong" is much greater in childbirth than during an abortion procedure. There's a 2 year back-log on deportations, she's going to drop an anchor baby in a few months if you don't get her to a clinic. Is that what you want?

Please, Judy, you're fighting a losing battle on this one! DHS doesn't have abortion clinics. If the girl was to get an abortion, more than likely it would be paid for by the state. If she could afford it herself, I'm sure that fact would have been mentioned in the article that started this thread. Making the state pay for it is forcing the state of Texas to fund an illegal alien benefit. I agree with AG Ken Paxton, the state is not responsible for this girls abortion and shouldn't be forced to pay for it!

Who says she has to wait two years to be deported? If she was caught within 100 miles of the border, she could have be deported immediately! She is a minor and should be escorted to the border and turned over to Mexican security officers for escort to the nearest hospital if her need is immediate.

You do realize you're advocating for giving a taxpayer funded benefit to an illegal alien, don't you?

Give her a bus ticket home and let her and her parents work this out. It's not our responsibility and she is a minor! Bare in mind, she purposely crossed the border illegally to receive a taxpayer funded benefit! Why should she be rewarded with the very thing she was seeking when she decided to sneak across the border?

Texas AG Ken Paxton is 100% correct to fight this. I say good on him and the state of Texas for fighting for the Texas taxpayers. Ken Paxton, and Governor Gregg Abbott should be celebrated for actually attempting to protect the state from the ravages of illegal immigration.

The law requires medical care for those in detention. The state would not be paying for it, the girl or a charity would be paying for it, worst case the feds would be paying for it like they pay for every other medical procedure needed or wanted by an illegal alien while in custody. When she gives birth in detention, who is going to pay for that? $15,000 for a childbirth assuming no complications. $300 to $600 for an abortion.

Yeah, if she doesn't have the money and no charity will pay for it, as a federal taxpayer I will GLADLY support the feds to pay for it while she's in detention. I thought there was a federal law that prohibits federal money being used to pay for abortions. So I honestly don't see a way for the feds to pay for it, she has to pay for it or have a charity pay for it. If you can deport her before the 26 week deadline in time for her to find another country or another way to have a legal abortion procedure, have at it, but you keep her in detention past that deadline, and that's a huge legal problem if you ask me.

She already has a judicial waiver to have the abortion, according to the article, the problem is DHHS has her locked up and won't take her to the clinic for the procedure.

It's Pro-Life Gone Mad.

You don't get her to the clinic, she'll be dropping an anchor baby and you and your "conservatism" will paying for them both, forever. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

When Trump gets his new Unaccompanied Minors law, Border Patrol came throw them back across the border and won't have to take them in, but that's not how the law is now.

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The law requires medical care for those in detention. The state would not be paying for it, the girl or a charity would be paying for it, worst case the feds would be paying for it like they pay for every other medical procedure needed or wanted by an illegal alien while in custody. When she gives birth in detention, who is going to pay for that? $15,000 for a childbirth assuming no complications. $300 to $600 for an abortion.

Yeah, if she doesn't have the money and no charity will pay for it, as a federal taxpayer I will GLADLY support the feds to pay for it while she's in detention. I thought there was a federal law that prohibits federal money being used to pay for abortions. So I honestly don't see a way for the feds to pay for it, she has to pay for it or have a charity pay for it. If you can deport her before the 26 week deadline in time for her to find another country or another way to have a legal abortion procedure, have at it, but you keep her in detention past that deadline, and that's a huge legal problem if you ask me.

She already has a judicial waiver to have the abortion, according to the article, the problem is DHHS has her locked up and won't take her to the clinic for the procedure.

It's Pro-Life Gone Mad.

You don't get her to the clinic, she'll be dropping an anchor baby and you and your "conservatism" will paying for them both, forever. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

When Trump gets his new Unaccompanied Minors law, Border Patrol came throw them back across the border and won't have to take them in, but that's not how the law is now.

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You're missing the whole point in your siding with the ACLU. Abortion, except in the case of a medical emergency to save the mother, is an elective surgery/procedure. Attorney General Ken Paxton is fighting it because the state of Texas doesn't want to become a mecca for every illegal alien seeking an abortion. So basically you're advocating for the rewarding of an illegal with the very thing she came here for. Furthermore, giving her the abortion is giving her a benefit. NO BENEFITS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS AND NO REWARDS FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

So should the state of Texas, California, and Arizona be responsible for the abortions of every illegal that sneaks over here wanting one? You're allowing your pro-choice position to interrupt your thinking process on this. This isn't about "pro-choice" or anchor babies, it's about rewarding illegal aliens for breaking the law.

If DHS really wanted, I'd think they could figure out a way to expedite her deportation back to her parents since she is a minor with parents in Mexico. Perhaps all that is needed is a simple phone call to the Mexican consulate to hand over custody for return to her parents. We need to send the message that illegals can't just sneak in our country to obtain benefits not available to them in their own country. I say send her and her unborn child back immediately.

The defending of an illegal alien's right to an elective medical procedure under the guise of pro-choice is just wrong headed in my view. The pro-choice argument has no place in this discussion. The illegal made her own choice to sneak over here and in doing so should be willing to accept the consequences for her actions. Oh, and the anchor baby argument you're trying to hide behind is a non-starter because surely our federal government is smart enough to figure out how to get the girl back to Mexico within the next 6-7 months.

One last thing. If it was truly just an abortion the girl was seeking, I'm sure she could have found a way to have one in in her own homeland. Perhaps it would have been illegal, but so is sneaking into the United States!

I'll be very surprised if the judge actually forces DHS or anyone else to give the girl an abortion. The judge may not prevent it, but I doubt he (or she) will force it.

Deport her immediately.

She is a minor...hand her over into the care and custody of her President.

No medical procedures for any of these illegal aliens...get them all out of here!

Whatever, MW. What's another anchor baby at this point.

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Deport her immediately.

She is a minor...hand her over into the care and custody of her President.

No medical procedures for any of these illegal aliens...get them all out of here!

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Current law prohibits that under the laws passed during Obama protecting these Unaccompanied Alien Children, (minors under the age of 18 yrs of age). Trump wants those laws changed so they're bumped back at the border instead of kidnapped and hauled into the interior to be detained and supported by US taxpayers. But that's months maybe years away and won't happen in time so unless she is allowed the freedom to have the abortion procedure, you'll be greeting with tax dollars another anchor baby.

Judge orders Trump administration to allow abortion for illegal alien teen

Thank God reason and the rule of law prevailed in spite of this stupid government. Thank you ACLU. Thank you Judge Churkan.

DHS, you get this girl out of here by Friday. She should have had her abortion and already been out of here weeks ago. Stop being idiots. Someone needs to investigate what's been going on with these pregnant minor illegal aliens and count up how many times this has happened before the ACLU got wind of it and got involved. How many anchor babies have been born in federal custody against the will of the woman? I want the number and I want it now.

The illegal was offered a voluntary return (deportation) but refused and continued to demand the reward she came here illegally for, an abortion! Actually, I'm sure it was the ACLU that highly encouraged her to decline the voluntary return option because they are using the girl for their own pro-choice agenda battle. The ACLU has turned into a very disgusting organization that will do anything to further their agenda against the American people! So now the message is being sent out around the world to all seeking an abortion, "go to American for your American taxpayer funded abortion.

One of the other articles claim that she is from Central America, didn't give the country, however El Salvador and Nicaragua have total bans on abortion, maybe she's from one of those countries.