Texas ends legal challenge to DACA after administration announces halt to amnesty pro

Texas ends legal challenge to DACA after administration announces halt to amnesty program

Lawsuit to test legality of Obama’s 2012 executive order

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, September 5, 2017

Texas moved Tuesday to cancel the legal case it had planned to use to challenge the legality of President Obama’s 2012 deportation amnesty after the Trump administration said it was phasing out the program, known as DACA.

Ken Paxton, Texas attorney general, filed for voluntary dismissal, saying they succeeded in derailing some of Mr. Obama’s biggest legal transgressions.

The case, which was filed in 2014, first halted Mr. Obama’s proposed deportation amnesty for as many as 4 million illegal immigrant parents. And it has now prodded President Trump to cancel the amnesty for 800,000 Dreamers.

“Our lawsuit was always about the rule of law, not the wisdom of any particular immigration policy,” Mr. Paxton said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...d-amnesty-ord/

Thank you JD2 for posting that article. So Texas lawsuit dismissed simultaneously with the end of the program. Good!!!!

What is good about this?

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Yep, I would have preferred it went to court. The court could have halted all applications and renewals immediately pending a final ruling.

It means the states are satisfied with the decision and manner in which DACA was ended and the lawsuit is dismissed, and Judge Hanen's Ruling in that lawsuit that DACA 2012 continue in effect is now dispensed with.

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Yep, I would have preferred it went to court. The court could have halted all applications and renewals immediately pending a final ruling.

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They tried that already on DACA 2012 and were shot down because it's an implemented program.

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It means the states are satisfied with the decision and manner in which DACA was ended and the lawsuit is dismissed, and Judge Hanen's Ruling in that lawsuit that DACA 2012 continue in effect is now dispensed with.

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Judge Hanen did not rule on DACA, he ruled on DAPA and the DACA extension. He could not rule on DACA because it wasn't part of the lawsuit. However, he did comment that the program was "most likely" unconstitutional. Judge Hanen did not rule that DACA must stay in effect and couldn't because it wasn't part of the lawsuit. Basically what he was saying was DACA couldn't be ended based on that specific lawsuit because it wasn't part of the lawsuit. That didn't mean the Trump administration couldn't cancel the program. THERE WAS NO RULING THAT PREVENTED TRUMP FROM ENDING THE PROGRAM AS HE PROMISED!

That is absolutely false, MW. Hanen was asked by the States to apply the injunction to DACA 2012, Hanen denied their request and ruled that DACA 2012 would continue in effect and would not be stopped by an injunction on the other programs.

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That is absolutely false, MW. Hanen was asked by the States to apply the injunction to DACA 2012, Hanen denied their request and ruled that DACA 2012 would continue in effect and would not be stopped by an injunction on the other programs.

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He couldn't apply an injuction because DACA wasn't part of the lawsuit. Making a 23rd hour request for consideration on something that wasn't in the original lawsuit wasn't a road the judge wanted to go down. There is nothing that was in the ruling on DACA that would have precluded Trump from ending the program anytime he wanted to! The judge was just basically saying that specific lawsuit would not have an effect on DACA. The end, that's all there was to it. No need create an issue where none exist.

President Donald Trump could have ended DACA anytime he so chose. Unfortunately though, he thought his promise to the DACA members and his "big heart" was more important than the campaign promise he made to gain our vote!

You are wrong! When a court ruling states DACA 2012 will continue in effect that means it will continue in effect until the ruling is dispensed with by a resolution of the lawsuit or a dismissal. Not sure what bus you rode in on, but it wasn't from the legal world of the United States.

Hanen could have absolutely put an injunction on DACA 2012 if there was legal cause to do so. He considered it and ruled against it because it was an implemented program, much smaller in scope and had been properly renewed.

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You are wrong! When a court ruling states DACA 2012 will continue in effect that means it will continue in effect until the ruling is dispensed with by a resolution of the lawsuit or a dismissal. Not sure what bus you rode in on, but it wasn't from the legal world of the United States.

Hanen could have absolutely put an injunction on DACA 2012 if there was legal cause to do so. He considered it and ruled against it because it was an implemented program, much smaller in scope and had been properly renewed.

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You're allowing your instincts to protect Trump take over your sensibilities.

There was absolutely no ruling in the lawsuit that would have prevented Trump from ending DACA. He could have ended it on day one as he promised or anytime up to this point. Of course he ends it now, if you want to call it that considering the 6 month extension, when he knew he would look like a flaming idiot and traitor if he allowed AG Paxton to follow through with his lawsuit.

15 states, DC sue Trump administration over ending DACA

Sarah Sanders first statement in yesterdays press conference was that the president to avoid a possible complete shutdown of DACA by the court took this constitutional act. He did not want the courts ruling on file. He is going to make sure that DACA passes.

The fact is folks Trump lied to us and you can twist it anyway you want but it is not going to change.

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Originally Posted by MontereySherry

Sarah Sanders first statement in yesterdays press conference was that the president to avoid a possible complete shutdown of DACA by the court took this constitutional act. He did not want the courts ruling on file. He is going to make sure that DACA passes.

The fact is folks Trump lied to us and you can twist it anyway you want but it is not going to change.

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Thank you!

DACA isn't going to pass the Congress. Americans aren't going to allow 30,000 good jobs a month to go to illegal aliens!! We aren't going to allow that. Oh no, we're not. Trump won't allow that. I'm not sure what his strategy is, but he has one. There are lots of big issues on the table including one that no one is talking about, so we have to work to kill the bills, but we would have had to do that even if Trump hadn't made the statements trying to push Congress to pass a fix, so I admit, I don't know what the strategy is with these comments, other than playing the DEMS, but this I know, he has some strategy concerning this. I also know that whatever it is, he needs to stop talking about DACA, SHUT UP and let our agencies do their jobs.

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DACA isn't going to pass the Congress. Americans aren't going to allow 30,000 good jobs a month to go to illegal aliens!! We aren't going to allow that. Oh no, we're not. Trump won't allow that. I'm not sure what his strategy is, but he has one. There are lots of big issues on the table including one that no one is talking about, so we have to work to kill the bills, but we would have had to do that even if Trump hadn't made the statements trying to push Congress to pass a fix, so I admit, I don't know what the strategy is with these comments, other than playing the DEMS, but this I know, he has some strategy concerning this. I also know that whatever it is, he needs to stop talking about DACA, SHUT UP and let our agencies do their jobs.

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Geez, you've got a major case of the denials. :shock:

Right now I'd say some form of DACA amnesty has a better than than average chance of reaching Trump's desk for signature. I hope it doesn't happen, but it would be a mistake to understimate the sympathy these DACA members have been getting lately. Trump doesn't seem to have a lot of muscle, however, his encouragement of a DACA amnesty isn't helpful and isn't in keeping with his campaign promises.

Oh yes, I'm going to do and say any and everything I can to deny illegal aliens amnesty. Suggest you do likewise.

Judge Refuses To Dismiss States' Immigration Action Challenge, Even After DACA End

We should continue to resist, but let's face it, it will probably pass.

We only have to see what the government, with a lot of push from the republican side, has put upon this country in the last few years.

The entire government, with possibly a few, who have always protected, supported and encouraged illegals and their many benefits.

To suppose they are going to stop it now is wishful thinking.

Oh I don't think so. I don't think a Republican Congress is going to pass amnesty for anyone. They don't even want to talk about it. Paul Ryan made a huge blunder when he dared to come out against Trump ending DACA. Trump heard that and said okey, dokey, Paul, if that's how you want to play, here it is right back in your lap, you do it then, you put your "votes" where your big mouth is. BOOM!!!

Punch, Counterpunch. Congress best learn this about this President and learn it quick. I honestly don't know how they could have learned so little from the primaries. Trump is President now, he's a man on a mission, he's not messing around, he's not going to let the Speaker of the US House of Representatives, of his party, undermine in any way his decision to end DACA, without a counter-punch.

Bad News: Trump is full blown Amnesty backer

Just heard on Fox News that Trump is pro-Dreamer. He told Pelosi that he will sign any bill giving dreamers amnesty.

Pelosi: Trump Said He Would Sign the Dream Act

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