Trump decides to end DACA — will start deporting Dreamers in six months

Trump decides to end DACA — will start deporting Dreamers in six months

DAVID FERGUSON
03 SEP 2017 AT 20:48 ET

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/...rs-800x430.jpgA woman holds up a signs in support of the Obama-era program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, during an immigration rally, Tuesday, Aug. 15, 2017, at the White House in Washington. Trump aides said the president is still undecided about the program's fate. Jacquelyn Martin AP

President Donald Trump has chosen to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA) that allows people brought to the U.S. as undocumented children to remain in the country.

Politico.com reported Sunday night that Trump has chosen to end the program but has instituted a six month delay.

“In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official,” said Politico’s Eliana Johnson.

After vacillating on the issue for months, Trump was reportedly pressed into the decision by Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions, who argued that immigration policy should be set by the Congress, not the executive branch.

White House aides met on Sunday afternoon to discuss how to roll out the decision, but officials who spoke to Politico “caution that — as with everything in the Trump White House — nothing is set in stone until an official announcement has been made.”

Trump will announce the decision on Tuesday. The White House informed Speaker of the House Paul Ryan — who spoke out against striking down DACA — on Sunday morning.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/tru...in-six-months/

Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

Senior White House aides met Sunday afternoon to discuss how to roll out the controversial move affecting hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

By ELIANA JOHNSON
09/03/2017 08:21 PM EDT
Updated 09/03/2017 08:25 PM EDT

President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises.

Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. He has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program and struggled with his own misgivings about targeting minors for deportation.

Conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program, the two sources said, though White House aides caution that — as with everything in the Trump White House — nothing is set in stone until an official announcement has been made.

In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”

Trump is expected to announce his decision on Tuesday, and the White House informed House Speaker Paul Ryan of the president’s decision on Sunday morning, according to a source close to the administration. Ryan had said during a radio interview on Friday that he didn’t think the president should terminate DACA, and that Congress should act on the issue.

Neither the White House nor a spokesman for Ryan immediately responded to requests for comment.

The president’s expected announcement is likely to shore up his base, which rallied behind his broader campaign message about the importance of enforcing the country’s immigration laws and securing the border. At the same time, the president’s decision is likely to be one of the most contentious of his early administration, opposed by leaders of both parties and by the political establishment more broadly.

The White House and Congress have tried to pass the issue off on each other – with each arguing that the other is responsible for determining the fate of the approximately 800,000 undocumented immigrants who are benefiting from DACA. Though most Republicans believe that rolling back DACA is a solid legal decision, they are conscious of the difficult emotional terrain. Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch joined Ryan in cautioning Trump against rolling back the program.

The president is likely to couch his decision in legalese. Many on the right, even those who support protections for children brought into the country illegally through no fault of their own, argue that DACA is unconstitutional because former President Barack Obama carried it out unilaterally instead of working through Congress.

Some Republican lawmakers, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, have said that Congress needs to pass a law to protect the so-called Dreamers.

“My hope is that as part of this process we can work on a way to deal with this issue and solve it through legislation, which is the right way to do it and the constitutional way to do it,” Rubio told CNN in June.

Trump’s expected decision to scrap DACA represents another challenge for Ryan and fellow congressional Republicans, who are facing an end-of-September deadline to avert a government shutdown and government debt default, while also tackling a Hurricane Harvey relief package and a major tax reform push.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...igrants-242301

Trump to scrap protection for 'Dreamers', give Congress six months to fix

We'll find out on Tuesday! Trump is already deporting high-priority DACA's, has been all along, criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa overstays.

The 6 months is to give congress time to pass an amnesty bill.

Congress doesn't need "time" to pass an amnesty bill. It's free and been free to pass an amnesty bill any time it wants to. The problem for the pro-illegal alien movement, DACAs included, is that they can't pass one because the American People don't want one, not when Democrats are in charge and I would certainly hope never when Republicans are in charge. So if these partial reports are right, Trump plans to end the program, but won't deport non-high priority DACA's until sometime next year, something he wasn't planning to do anyway, because his resources are tied-up deporting the tens of millions of high-priority illegal aliens including high-priority DACA's. High-priorities under Trump Administration for now are criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa-overstays.

If this all goes as I think it will be announced Tuesday, DACA is over, Dreamer Crap is over, and Amnesty is over. Mnuchin was on Fox News Sunday and basically said when asked about the economic "damage" of ending DACA, that he wasn't concerned about that at all, because their mission in this administration is to put Americans back to work. He was very blunt and direct about it.

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We'll find out on Tuesday! Trump is already deporting high-priority DACA's, has been all along, criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa overstays.

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Hi Judy. General Kelly said they were not deporting illegal alien dreamers. The number is small and activist judges work against deportations.

As we know, the President has been allowing illegal aliens to apply and to be accepted to the illegal DACA amnesty since he took office. He has allowed renewals in the thousands and his administration has granted legalization and citizenship through Advanced Parole. Giving Congress 6 months to act on dream act legislation does not make one believe he is fighting illegal immigration too much on that front. Day one was the time to prove that. Any amnesty, if successful, will likely be as 1986 and the 6 plus amnesties that followed. There will be loopholes. We must continue to fight any attempts.

Congress works against the American people on the issue of immigration. Tuesday will give us more up to the minute information on DACA's real fate.

Kelly actually said they were not deporting non-high priority DACA's. If you've committed a crime, if you've committed multiple misdemeanors, if you're using welfare or if you're a visa-overstay, you're being deported right along with everyone else. There's probably not been that many DACA's so far because the government's been too busy with the limited manpower to deport other than the murderers, rapists, pedophiles, drug runners, MS-13, and visa-overstays. Visa overstays should be a top priority behind criminals because they're easy to deport, rapid deportation, no hearing required under US immigration law. Also, if a DACA has committed a crime, they lose their DACA status, so when they're deported they aren't a DACA and aren't counted as one.

Yes, we know GeorgiaPeach, the President has not ended DACA, he will based on reports, end it on Tuesday. I realize this doesn't matter to some here for some reason. That's just an oddity of politics. We've spent a lot of our time and capital on DACA and the refugee issues. Trump has spent his on securing the border to stop new entries, fighting sanctuary cities, catch and release and deportation of high-priority illegal aliens who are criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa-overstays. There just aren't enough ICE agents yet to deport them all. We need more state and local law enforcement agencies to get on board, join the cause to enforce our laws, and help us deport all illegal aliens. Perhaps as time moves along, maybe with the Pardon of Sheriff Joe and after Tuesday when DACA is dead and the Dreamer crap is over, more will put their finger to the wind and get on the Trump Train to help us end the scourge of illegal immigration.

My hope is everything goes smooth, legal and orderly on Tuesday so there are no lawsuits.

I hope things go well too, Judy. The opposition fights hard, they are well organized, well funded, make lots of noise. Making any steps forward to end illegal immigration is like slogging through mud when dealing with Congress. We have witnessed Congress members fight so hard for illegal foreign citizens while doing nothing noticeable to enforce our borders or strengthen our immigration laws.

Congress will now have 6 months to pass an amnesty for the DACA people.

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Making any steps forward to end illegal immigration is like slogging through mud when dealing with Congress. We have witnessed Congress members fight so hard for illegal foreign citizens while doing nothing noticeable to enforce our borders or strengthen our immigration laws.

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Yes, I know. That's why Trump calls it a SWAMP. That's why Congress hasn't done anything, they haven't repealed Obamacare, blame John McCain, Lissa Murkowski8 and Susan Collins, they haven't passed one immigration bill that I can think of, blame them all, they haven't passed the business and corporate tax cut to bring our industries back home, blame them all, they haven't done anything except hound and investigate Trump to try to bring down his Presidency, blame them all. They're the poison that's destroyed our country, let North Korea build a hydrogen bomb, approved the Iran Nuclear Deal, asked for DACA from Obama to begin with (as much as I would like to blame him for it, it was forced onto his administration by Congress during appropriation hearings for DHS).

Anyway, enjoy the Labor Day Weekend, GeorgiaPeach. Things are on the mend, progress is being made, and our country is headed in the right direction for the first time since the Nixon administration. I just loved it today when Mnuchin basically biotch-slapped the multi-nationals with their phony baloney about "economic damage" from ending DACA. A great moment, don't know if anyone else saw that today on Fox News Sunday, but that's when I knew for sure, DACA was going down. Trump is a President by the numbers. Today Abbott was interviewed and said the initial funding bill for Harvey Relief is "over $7 billion". Trump was interviewed somewhere and asked the amount as he's shaking hands and hugging the kids, he hears the reporter's question and pipes right up that he had already signed the documents for the funding and the amount is $7.9 billion. Trump knows the numbers and that's really all that matters to him right now. That's why I knew he would always end DACA, at the right time, the right way to avoid lawsuits, he knows the bad numbers of DACA and all illegal immigration on our economy, jobs, wages, welfare and debt. He knows them better than anyone in public office even though he's just been in public office a few months.

So when anyone wants to accuse me of being a Trump Cheerleader, yep, that's me alright, because this man is the best person to have entered the American White House in decades, skilled and ready to do the jobs that no other President would ever do.

Abbott: US needs comprehensive immigration reform

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Yes, I know. That's why Trump calls it a SWAMP. That's why Congress hasn't done anything, they haven't repealed Obamacare, blame John McCain, Lissa Murkowski8 and Susan Collins, they haven't passed one immigration bill that I can think of, blame them all, they haven't passed the business and corporate tax cut to bring our industries back home, blame them all, they haven't done anything except hound and investigate Trump to try to bring down his Presidency, blame them all. They're the poison that's destroyed our country, let North Korea build a hydrogen bomb, approved the Iran Nuclear Deal, asked for DACA from Obama to begin with (as much as I would like to blame him for it, it was forced onto his administration by Congress during appropriation hearings for DHS).

Anyway, enjoy the Labor Day Weekend, GeorgiaPeach. Things are on the mend, progress is being made, and our country is headed in the right direction for the first time since the Nixon administration. I just loved it today when Mnuchin basically biotch-slapped the multi-nationals with their phony baloney about "economic damage" from ending DACA. A great moment, don't know if anyone else saw that today on Fox News Sunday, but that's when I knew for sure, DACA was going down. Trump is a President by the numbers. Today Abbott was interviewed and said the initial funding bill for Harvey Relief is "over $7 billion". Trump was interviewed somewhere and asked the amount as he's shaking hands and hugging the kids, he hears the reporter's question and pipes right up that he had already signed the documents for the funding and the amount is $7.9 billion. Trump knows the numbers and that's really all that matters to him right now. That's why I knew he would always end DACA, at the right time, the right way to avoid lawsuits, he knows the bad numbers of DACA and all illegal immigration on our economy, jobs, wages, welfare and debt. He knows them better than anyone in public office even though he's just been in public office a few months.

So when anyone wants to accuse me of being a Trump Cheerleader, yep, that's me alright, because this man is the best person to have entered the American White House in decades, skilled and ready to do the jobs that no other President would ever do.

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Swamp for certain.

I laughed when I saw the cheerleader comment, Judy. I had just thought about mentioning that to you earlier. I have laughed at myself the past few days for thinking a bit like Eeyore over the DACA. :). The more one thinks about the open door for citizenship and voting available through it, the more the door must be slammed close, period. DACA illegal aliens are not future republicans but many republicans seem more like democrats, too.

I have planned to watch the Mnuchin interview and did read a few comments about it and DACA.

Thank you. I hope you have a wonderful Labor Day, too. That extends to all Alipac friends.

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I hope things go well too, Judy. The opposition fights hard, they are well organized, well funded, make lots of noise. Making any steps forward to end illegal immigration is like slogging through mud when dealing with Congress. We have witnessed Congress members fight so hard for illegal foreign citizens while doing nothing noticeable to enforce our borders or strengthen our immigration laws.

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I think it will. I realize some here don't understand the significance of "the thinking is to let it expire in June", but after Tuesday it won't matter whether they did or not. DACA will be over without lawsuits, and the Trump Train moving on quickly to address the real issues of real Americans to solve our very many serious problems including knocking nuclear bombs out of North Korea.

Two of the sources said the plan is to have a six-month delay in any action regarding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to allow Congress time to pass a fix through legislation that would allow the undocumented immigrants to stay in the country.
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DACA on the brink

By Jim Acosta, Mary Kay Mallonee and Tal Kopan, CNN
Updated 11:32 PM ET, Sun September 3, 2017


(CNN)President Donald Trump is expected to end a program that protected undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children -- so-called "Dreamers" -- from deportation, four sources familiar with the decision told CNN.

Two of the sources said the plan is to have a six-month delay in any action regarding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to allow Congress time to pass a fix through legislation that would allow the undocumented immigrants to stay in the country.

The expected move -- which comes after weeks of White House deliberations about what to do in response to an ultimatum from 10 state attorneys general led by Texas -- would satisfy Trump's base but upend the lives of nearly 800,000 people who were working and studying in the US. The DACA program, which gave qualified applicants protections from deportation, is popular among Democrats and moderate Republicans, many of whom have introduced legislation in Congress to try to protect the population permanently.

The sources said the expected decision to end the program with a six-month delay reflects the President's thinking as of Sunday night.
Officials have sent conflicting signals at times in the past as to what the final decision on the program's fate would be.

Several of the sources cautioned the decision would not be final until it is announced, which the White House has said will be Tuesday.
Two of the sources familiar with the matter said there was a meeting at the White House on Sunday to talk about the decision, which was first reported by Politico.

Controversial decision

As soon as the expected move was reported, there was a flood of reactions from the left and the right, with immigration advocates calling the move cruel and Trump's core supporters hailing the move as restoring the rule of law.

"If Trump decides to end DACA, it will be one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made by a president in our modern history," Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders tweeted.

But Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, said on Twitter that ending DACA would give "chance 2 restore Rule of Law."

Some Republicans have implored Trump in recent days to keep the program going as Congress works on a solution for the sympathetic population -- who in most cases know no other home than America.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said in a radio interview Friday that he hoped Trump wouldn't end the program but that he believed Congress needed to come up with a fix. His view was echoed by several Senate Republicans, including Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch and Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake.

Trump, himself, has gone back and forth on the program. During the campaign, he pledged to immediately rescind the Obama administration policy, which just marked its fifth anniversary. But upon taking office, he spoke of the sympathy he had for the "Dreamers" covered under DACA and said it was a "very, very hard" decision that he faced.

Trump said on Friday, "We love the Dreamers." He has also said in the past he would treat the issue "with heart."

Discussions in Washington in recent days have centered on an expectation that the administration would stop processing renewals and new permit applications as a way of ending the program, though details like when the effective date would be and what would happen to applications in the pipeline still needed to be decided.

Permits under DACA are granted for two years before needing to be renewed. A recent study by groups that support DACA estimated that 1,400 people a day could lose their protections if renewals were ended.

AGs forced Trump's hand

The President is expected to make the move even as his administration deals with the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey's devastation in Texas, where authorities have been trying to reassure undocumented immigrants they will not have their status checked at shelters amid increased fear of deportation in the population.

But a move by 10 state attorneys general over the summer forced Trump's hand. The states sent Trump a letter earlier in the year setting a deadline of September 5 for the administration to announce a winding-down of the program. The ultimatum issued by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and nine other state attorneys general threatened that if the administration did not rescind DACA by then, they would challenge it in an unfriendly court. The Tennessee attorney general backed off his threat on Friday, citing a "human element" in his calculation and urging Congress to act instead.

The attorneys general had already succeeded in stopping a similar program to protect the parents of childhood arrivals to the US, and that litigation is still pending before a Texas federal judge. If Trump had not acted to end the program, they would have filed a petition to add DACA to that lawsuit.

When the Obama administration instituted the deferred action program in 2012, critics, including now-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, blasted the move as an executive overreach. The Trump administration, largely through chief of staff John Kelly when he was serving as homeland security secretary, has prodded Congress to come up with a permanent solution for the program, which would answer the complaints of it being done through presidential authority.

Four different proposals have been introduced in Congress to offer some permanent protections to the so-called "Dreamers" under the program -- two bipartisan, one Republican and one Democratic.
Trump's move will place pressure on congressional leadership to determine what both sides of the aisle can swallow in terms of a compromise, but will also lend urgency as the fate of the hundreds of thousands of people hang in the balance.

But Congress already faces a busy September, in which it has to raise the debt ceiling, ensure government funding beyond the end of the month, renew key federal programs and come up with an aid package to deal with the devastation of Hurricane Harvey.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politi...ink/index.html

Hey, JD2, you got the wrong link on your last article. The link to time is Zeke Miller's article, not Acosta's CNN article.

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Swamp for certain.

I laughed when I saw the cheerleader comment, Judy. I had just thought about mentioning that to you earlier. I have laughed at myself the past few days for thinking a bit like Eeyore over the DACA. :). The more one thinks about the open door for citizenship and voting available through it, the more the door must be slammed close, period. DACA illegal aliens are not future republicans but many republicans seem more like democrats, too.

I have planned to watch the Mnuchin interview and did read a few comments about it and DACA.

Thank you. I hope you have a wonderful Labor Day, too. That extends to all Alipac friends.

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Yes, Happy Labor Day to Everyone!!

DACA: Trump expected to end 'Dreamers' immigration program

Trump gives congress 6 months to pass AMNESTY FOR THE DREAMERS

so they can ALL stay.


Is what the headline should say.

Trump needs to sign an Executive Order to stop issuing US Birth Certificates to illegal aliens and non-citizens coming here giving birth on our soil.

Give them a "Certificate of Child Born Abroad", no citizenship, no eligibility for benefits.

Force the courts to settle the issue of the 14th Amendment...no automatic citizenship!

Why Congress Will Decide Dreamers' Fate

Ann Coulter
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I guess @realDonaldTrump did forget the Angel Moms he said he'd never forget.


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President Trump has to decided to end DACA, but with a 6-month delay to give Congress a limited window to act. (link: http://politi.co/2vWY7bw) politi.co/2vWY7bw

I "guess" Ann Coulter is one who trusts the corrupt media more than the President. Otherwise before accusing him of something he never did, she would have waited for the announcement instead of relying on phony leaks from CNN.

Coffman Thinks DACA Extension Has Enough Votes to Pass


That vote is expected to happen Tuesday.


Coffman believes it has enough support to pass. . .

Amnesty Red Alert: Congress may vote Tuesday!
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https://www.alipac.us/f8/amnesty-red...uesday-350376/

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New DACA Rules