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    We'll find out on Tuesday! Trump is already deporting high-priority DACA's, has been all along, criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa overstays.
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    The 6 months is to give congress time to pass an amnesty bill.
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    Congress doesn't need "time" to pass an amnesty bill. It's free and been free to pass an amnesty bill any time it wants to. The problem for the pro-illegal alien movement, DACAs included, is that they can't pass one because the American People don't want one, not when Democrats are in charge and I would certainly hope never when Republicans are in charge. So if these partial reports are right, Trump plans to end the program, but won't deport non-high priority DACA's until sometime next year, something he wasn't planning to do anyway, because his resources are tied-up deporting the tens of millions of high-priority illegal aliens including high-priority DACA's. High-priorities under Trump Administration for now are criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa-overstays.

    If this all goes as I think it will be announced Tuesday, DACA is over, Dreamer Crap is over, and Amnesty is over. Mnuchin was on Fox News Sunday and basically said when asked about the economic "damage" of ending DACA, that he wasn't concerned about that at all, because their mission in this administration is to put Americans back to work. He was very blunt and direct about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    We'll find out on Tuesday! Trump is already deporting high-priority DACA's, has been all along, criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa overstays.

    Hi Judy. General Kelly said they were not deporting illegal alien dreamers. The number is small and activist judges work against deportations.

    As we know, the President has been allowing illegal aliens to apply and to be accepted to the illegal DACA amnesty since he took office. He has allowed renewals in the thousands and his administration has granted legalization and citizenship through Advanced Parole. Giving Congress 6 months to act on dream act legislation does not make one believe he is fighting illegal immigration too much on that front. Day one was the time to prove that. Any amnesty, if successful, will likely be as 1986 and the 6 plus amnesties that followed. There will be loopholes. We must continue to fight any attempts.

    Congress works against the American people on the issue of immigration. Tuesday will give us more up to the minute information on DACA's real fate.
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    Kelly actually said they were not deporting non-high priority DACA's. If you've committed a crime, if you've committed multiple misdemeanors, if you're using welfare or if you're a visa-overstay, you're being deported right along with everyone else. There's probably not been that many DACA's so far because the government's been too busy with the limited manpower to deport other than the murderers, rapists, pedophiles, drug runners, MS-13, and visa-overstays. Visa overstays should be a top priority behind criminals because they're easy to deport, rapid deportation, no hearing required under US immigration law. Also, if a DACA has committed a crime, they lose their DACA status, so when they're deported they aren't a DACA and aren't counted as one.

    Yes, we know GeorgiaPeach, the President has not ended DACA, he will based on reports, end it on Tuesday. I realize this doesn't matter to some here for some reason. That's just an oddity of politics. We've spent a lot of our time and capital on DACA and the refugee issues. Trump has spent his on securing the border to stop new entries, fighting sanctuary cities, catch and release and deportation of high-priority illegal aliens who are criminals, multiple misdemeanors, welfare users and visa-overstays. There just aren't enough ICE agents yet to deport them all. We need more state and local law enforcement agencies to get on board, join the cause to enforce our laws, and help us deport all illegal aliens. Perhaps as time moves along, maybe with the Pardon of Sheriff Joe and after Tuesday when DACA is dead and the Dreamer crap is over, more will put their finger to the wind and get on the Trump Train to help us end the scourge of illegal immigration.

    My hope is everything goes smooth, legal and orderly on Tuesday so there are no lawsuits.
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    I hope things go well too, Judy. The opposition fights hard, they are well organized, well funded, make lots of noise. Making any steps forward to end illegal immigration is like slogging through mud when dealing with Congress. We have witnessed Congress members fight so hard for illegal foreign citizens while doing nothing noticeable to enforce our borders or strengthen our immigration laws.
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    Congress will now have 6 months to pass an amnesty for the DACA people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    Making any steps forward to end illegal immigration is like slogging through mud when dealing with Congress. We have witnessed Congress members fight so hard for illegal foreign citizens while doing nothing noticeable to enforce our borders or strengthen our immigration laws.
    Yes, I know. That's why Trump calls it a SWAMP. That's why Congress hasn't done anything, they haven't repealed Obamacare, blame John McCain, Lissa Murkowski8 and Susan Collins, they haven't passed one immigration bill that I can think of, blame them all, they haven't passed the business and corporate tax cut to bring our industries back home, blame them all, they haven't done anything except hound and investigate Trump to try to bring down his Presidency, blame them all. They're the poison that's destroyed our country, let North Korea build a hydrogen bomb, approved the Iran Nuclear Deal, asked for DACA from Obama to begin with (as much as I would like to blame him for it, it was forced onto his administration by Congress during appropriation hearings for DHS).

    Anyway, enjoy the Labor Day Weekend, GeorgiaPeach. Things are on the mend, progress is being made, and our country is headed in the right direction for the first time since the Nixon administration. I just loved it today when Mnuchin basically biotch-slapped the multi-nationals with their phony baloney about "economic damage" from ending DACA. A great moment, don't know if anyone else saw that today on Fox News Sunday, but that's when I knew for sure, DACA was going down. Trump is a President by the numbers. Today Abbott was interviewed and said the initial funding bill for Harvey Relief is "over $7 billion". Trump was interviewed somewhere and asked the amount as he's shaking hands and hugging the kids, he hears the reporter's question and pipes right up that he had already signed the documents for the funding and the amount is $7.9 billion. Trump knows the numbers and that's really all that matters to him right now. That's why I knew he would always end DACA, at the right time, the right way to avoid lawsuits, he knows the bad numbers of DACA and all illegal immigration on our economy, jobs, wages, welfare and debt. He knows them better than anyone in public office even though he's just been in public office a few months.

    So when anyone wants to accuse me of being a Trump Cheerleader, yep, that's me alright, because this man is the best person to have entered the American White House in decades, skilled and ready to do the jobs that no other President would ever do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, I know. That's why Trump calls it a SWAMP. That's why Congress hasn't done anything, they haven't repealed Obamacare, blame John McCain, Lissa Murkowski8 and Susan Collins, they haven't passed one immigration bill that I can think of, blame them all, they haven't passed the business and corporate tax cut to bring our industries back home, blame them all, they haven't done anything except hound and investigate Trump to try to bring down his Presidency, blame them all. They're the poison that's destroyed our country, let North Korea build a hydrogen bomb, approved the Iran Nuclear Deal, asked for DACA from Obama to begin with (as much as I would like to blame him for it, it was forced onto his administration by Congress during appropriation hearings for DHS).

    Anyway, enjoy the Labor Day Weekend, GeorgiaPeach. Things are on the mend, progress is being made, and our country is headed in the right direction for the first time since the Nixon administration. I just loved it today when Mnuchin basically biotch-slapped the multi-nationals with their phony baloney about "economic damage" from ending DACA. A great moment, don't know if anyone else saw that today on Fox News Sunday, but that's when I knew for sure, DACA was going down. Trump is a President by the numbers. Today Abbott was interviewed and said the initial funding bill for Harvey Relief is "over $7 billion". Trump was interviewed somewhere and asked the amount as he's shaking hands and hugging the kids, he hears the reporter's question and pipes right up that he had already signed the documents for the funding and the amount is $7.9 billion. Trump knows the numbers and that's really all that matters to him right now. That's why I knew he would always end DACA, at the right time, the right way to avoid lawsuits, he knows the bad numbers of DACA and all illegal immigration on our economy, jobs, wages, welfare and debt. He knows them better than anyone in public office even though he's just been in public office a few months.

    So when anyone wants to accuse me of being a Trump Cheerleader, yep, that's me alright, because this man is the best person to have entered the American White House in decades, skilled and ready to do the jobs that no other President would ever do.
    Swamp for certain.

    I laughed when I saw the cheerleader comment, Judy. I had just thought about mentioning that to you earlier. I have laughed at myself the past few days for thinking a bit like Eeyore over the DACA. . The more one thinks about the open door for citizenship and voting available through it, the more the door must be slammed close, period. DACA illegal aliens are not future republicans but many republicans seem more like democrats, too.

    I have planned to watch the Mnuchin interview and did read a few comments about it and DACA.

    Thank you. I hope you have a wonderful Labor Day, too. That extends to all Alipac friends.
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