Thread: Gang Rape in Herndon, Virginia

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It's one news story after another. We can't begin to post them all. There are 3 stories about illegals within the last 3 days near my old hometown of Medford, Oregon. 3 people murdered. Another 2 ran over with a car. Giving out Matricular cards, you name it. Small town America has been invaded. One of these perps that shot 2 people was 14 years old. We are dealing with an element that knows nothing but lie, cheat, steal, murder, whatever to survive from the cradle to the grave. Animals. Family values my patoot. It's not about race. It's about a culture of violence. More deaths have resulted from illegal aliens than occured on 9/11. I guess they think if they bleed us to death slowly, we won't notice.

It appears the public is finally getting the message. It wouldn't have happened without the Minutemen project.

I guess they think if they bleed us to death slowly, we won't notice.

There is an element of truth to this.

Again it begs the question
"HOW MANY AMERICANS HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY ILLEGALS IN THE PAST YEAR?"

This sounds just like th 8-9 other illegal alien gang rape cases we are tracking in the alipac archives. If someone can get their immigration status we can run it. I know it is hard but sometimes a few calls to reporters and police will get us the confirmation.

W

If they are not allowed to ask if they are here illegally, they unfortunately can't tell us either. There was a bad school bus accident in Arlington a few weeks ago, I am sure you heard about it. I have never and correct me if I am wrong, ever heard ANYTHING about the driver of the trash truck. We always hear about BOTH drivers when anything like that happens. I do beleive the media has been told to "hush", about illegalls fearing the truth might insite violence. It's unfortunate.

This is really sad news for this poor woman! I wonder if anyone is thinking about her? Or if anyone thought it was equally sad when my best friend ("white girl") was raped by four college men? (ALSO WHITE) funny how this never made the news or newspapers here in Az.......

Also funny how money talks(ALL FRAT BOYS)

Evil does not have a race, name or age or any bounderies. People do what they do because of what is inside them, not because of race, religion, etc. Just like priests who molest children do not molest because they are priests, they molest because they are evil and twisted individuals.

To truly get a handle on this issue we must first learn to distinguish between the misconception that people are just lining up in Mexico waiting to INVADE our country! They don't think they are invading, they think they are surviving. What would you do? I mean, if this was the life you were living? Would you just stand there and let your family rot to hell?
What if your government did nothing to help? Could you look into your childs eyes, or your mothers eyes and ignore the sorrow, and anguish there?

Has anyone ever thought about this? Survial is the most basic instinct of all. Something every living being shares.

Does anyone at all in this forum know what a TARGET we are for the rest of the world? There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people that hate our president, our history and our government, therefore they hate US just for living here. They hate us the atrocities done to humanity, committed in the name of the USA. We are guilty by association. Even if we don't agree.

We are lucky to live in the country that we do. My father fought in the Korean war for this country and I grew up learning all about pride and patriotism. I also grew up learning first hand about the horrors of war and the evil that men do.

Each of us, have ancestors that came here from other lands, even if you don't want to admit it. There were NO "white" people in this part of the world. They, along with many other races, creeds and colors came here and built up this land(and also took land away from those who were here before and also brought others here against their will)nobody turned them away. Thats why WE are here.

What we need to do is try to get the Mexican government to DO something for their own people. Our government also needs to not make legal immigration so costly or hard to attain. Both countries need to shoulder the burden to give these people from Mexico the tools they need to come here legally, and safely.

After all they are people. Not animals. And for every horror crime story there are probably 100 sadder stories of loss, starvation and pain to top those. It is true, the criminals need to be stopped, just like the criminals here need to be stopped. People here in the United States, also abuse the welfare system, they need to be stopped as well.

Give credit where credit is due, there are very few Americans who will actually do all the menial tasks that the Mexicans will do.
When was the last time YOU wanted to scrub toilets or pick vegetables or stand around on street corner hoping a white man in a work truck will pick you up for word for the day? I p ointed my son towards a job picking onions about two years ago when he needed extra summer cash. The look on his face was priceless.

If these people were able to attain legal status they they too will have to pay taxes, social security etc, these could help solve some of our economic crisis. If you have ever received a tax refund did you know that YOU also don't pay taxes? You get what you did pay, AND more back at the end of the year!

All I am saying is that we need to think, and put ourselves in someone else's shoes and walk their walk before we let lose the fast talk.

Any suggestions?

peace and understanding.

V

Vasor wrote

What would you do? I mean, if this was the life you were living? Would you just stand there and let your family rot to hell?

I would do the right thing for the right reason
and that would be

STAND AND FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY
just as my family has done for some generations and my husband's has done since the 1600s.

We don't RUN---we WORK & STAND UP FOR RIGHT
But then, that's just our family history

STAND AND FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY
just as my family has done for some generations and my husband's has done since the 1600s.

We don't RUN---we WORK & STAND UP FOR RIGHT
But then, that's just our family history

That is awesome! So we are on the same page then.
this is SO great to know!

Now, as I stated before, my father, and his ancestors as well, also fought for what is "right, and good" yet, what is good for ALL PEOPLE. Not just a self delegated group. What is right and good, are human rights. Not RACE rights.

And for the record, My family is also American born and American raised.

What I want asked, is has anyone here ever lived, walked, or experienced this same type of hardship that immigrants, illegal or otherwise experience? Actually it is BEYOND hardship. It is torment, hell on earth and it is undeserved.

Where is the compassion? Can anyone honestly tell me there is no love there, no caring? What about small children? Innocent lives? Women? Elderly? We shouldn't help them, to help themselves? We shouldnt' at least attempt to do SOMETHING to force their government to assist their own citizens?

Not every one in this world is as blessed as we are, or as lucky as we are, if you don't happen to believe in the Lord.

This blessing/luck should not cause arrogance or conceit within ourselves, it should help us to be humble and to want to serve, and give as we have been given.

I strongly feel that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION from all nations, is a huge problem. I am not suggesting that it is not, but, posting negative stories and articles about Mexican people or people from other nations is not going to change the problem. Ignoring the plight of these people is not going to change it. WE as a nation can change it. We need a solution.

The solution is not building fences, for where there is a will, there is a way, or in some cases, corrupt politicians and border patrol allowing the crossing to continue. The solution is not name calling, finger pointing, racist commentary or sitting in our glass homes with a huge pile of stones ready for throwing.

I don't know what the solution is either, that is why I am here, asking for suggestions. SERIOUS SUGGESTIONS.

I think the Minute Men Militia are only the first step, of many steps, to Americans standing up to our government and saying "WE CAN FIGHT BACK AND WE WILL, WE DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING"
I fully support their right to assemble in peace.

On the other hand, I did not agree with the Militia having weapons if the volunteers were only there to observe and record illegal activities. You cannot write with a gun. I also did not agree with Brian Barton and two of his friends holding an illegal immigrant at gunpoint, forcing him to pose for a picture, holding up a tshirt with a demeaning slogan across the front.

That action alone showed lack of moral judgement and character. Remember, these volunteers were supposed to be screened to ensure their sole intent was to prevent illegal border crossing.

I also found it a little alarming, that many of the vehicles had gun racks, and that many of the volunteers wore military style clothing. They are still civilians after all.

Like it or not, this country was not built by the "white man" alone. Mixed in is the blood,sweat, and tears of many others and I am not only refering to those of Mexican heritage.

I take offense to those that state that all Mexican people are blood thirsty savages, with no breeding, or values, no morals, no ethics. How do you know? Have you given yourself a change to cross over and get to know them? Have you visited with families? Or are you too afraid to admit that in your heart of hearts, you could be wrong?

Often what we mock in others, is what we so hate about ourselves, but are much too afraid and ashamed to admit.

The following poem, entitled The New Colossus written by Emma Lazarus in 1883 it is inscribed on a plaque, at the foot of the Statue Of Liberty:

“Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Do those words inspire anything of value to you?

Always wishing you peace,
knowledge and your true place in the universe,

V

If I'm correct I believe we took the HUDDLED LEGAL MASSES who came to this country to honor the flag of the USA.

They came, Legally, rejected kings & queens & dictators, learned to speak English, flew the AMERICAN FLAG, worked very hard to educate their children LEGALLY and most of all

did NOT take from the TAXPAYERS........no, they paid their own way.

Yes, many of us know hardships. Great hardships that are ours to cherish because we learn to overcome and stand strong. They're not yours to bandy about.

Now, this has not been my personal experience with most illegals that we come in contact with on a daily basis.

But, what the heck, what do I know.