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    Obama NoT Nodding Yes, but Nodding Off

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    Barack Obama now isn’t so sure that his pastor Jeremiah Wright is his mentor and “spiritual advisorâ€
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    Between this, his ties to criminals, the Muslim garb, the rather unpleasant and unappealing views of his wife coupled with her blatant contempt and animosity toward the US, etc. Obama is all but done. No amount of trying to gloss this stuff over is going to get him into the white house and there's just more and more being revealed almost daily.

    Even his connection to Oprah isn't going to help him. As a fellow congregant and going by the old adage "One can be judged by the company one keeps" her credibility is in the toilet right along with his.
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    Between this, his ties to criminals, the Muslim garb, the rather unpleasant and unappealing views of his wife coupled with her blatant contempt and animosity toward the US, etc. Obama is all but done. No amount of trying to gloss this stuff over is going to get him into the white house and there's just more and more being revealed almost daily.
    Wow, you make it sound as if he's part of the mob. The real estate transaction that occurred between himself and Resko (an individual currently on trial not yet convicted) was totally above board and Obama is NOT on trial, nor is he being investigated for any wrong doing in that transaction. The fact that Resko is a former fundraiser and ONE real estate transaction occurred between them does not equate to him being "tied to criminals".

    The Muslim garb?: Is actually Traditional African garb worn in Kenya and presented to him to be worn while visiting Kenya. Traditional garb of the nation being visited is presented to all foreign dignitaries. It's a sign of respect for their culture and customs.

    The race based fear mongering in America is so over the top its sad. After 7 years of the current administration full of crooks and idiots, Americans really need to focus on the IQ's and sanity of the candidates instead of the race and fear mongering rumor mills surrounding the next potential POTUS.
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    Quoted in part by WhatMattersMost:



    "The race based fear mongering in America is so over the top its sad. After 7 years of the current administration full of crooks and idiots, Americans really need to focus on the IQ's and sanity of the candidates instead of the race and fear mongering rumor mills surrounding the next potential POTUS."


    I don't think that the videos of Pastor Wright is "rumor mills". It's fact! The muslin garb doesn't bother me all politicians do that when visiting foreign countries. HOWEVER, Pastor Wright is a race baiter and hates white AMERICANS. He applauds Louis Farrakhan and his videos speak for themselves. IF a Republican made weak arguments for 20 years of membership in a KKK church the screaming would be heard even louder. NO it is Obama's pastor who is the fear monger and Obama's weak response speaks for itself. Let me give you a scripture, yep right out of the Bible, that Pastor Wright says he holds to.

    "A woman without discretions is as a swine with a gold ring in its nose."

    It doesn't have to be a woman. It can be anyone without discretion. You can try to dress it up any way you want to but it is still a swine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    Between this, his ties to criminals, the Muslim garb, the rather unpleasant and unappealing views of his wife coupled with her blatant contempt and animosity toward the US, etc. Obama is all but done. No amount of trying to gloss this stuff over is going to get him into the white house and there's just more and more being revealed almost daily.

    Wow, you make it sound as if he's part of the mob. The real estate transaction that occurred between himself and Resko (an individual currently on trial not yet convicted) was totally above board and Obama is NOT on trial, nor is he being investigated for any wrong doing in that transaction. The fact that Resko is a former fundraiser and ONE real estate transaction occurred between them does not equate to him being "tied to criminals".

    The Muslim garb?: Is actually Traditional African garb worn in Kenya and presented to him to be worn while visiting Kenya. Traditional garb of the nation being visited is presented to all foreign dignitaries. It's a sign of respect for their culture and customs.

    The race based fear mongering in America is so over the top its sad. After 7 years of the current administration full of crooks and idiots, Americans really need to focus on the IQ's and sanity of the candidates instead of the race and fear mongering rumor mills surrounding the next potential POTUS.









    Excuse me, but no.....I am not making it sound like anything. I was simply pointing out that with one negative thing coming out after another, each new thing seemingly worse than the one prior, and it becoming more difficult all the time for Obama to distance himself from the controversy, his once viable campaign is in trouble. And in doing so, I rattled off a laundry list of the items he's gotten negative press over.

    Did I accuse him of these things? No, I did not. Did I go into a huge diatribe as to why he should withdraw from the race because of these things? No I did not.

    I mentioned these things only because they are part of the growing list damaging to his campaign.

    And where "race based fear mongering" figures into it, I have no idea. Do you attach those labels when dirt is dished on McCain? Or Hillary Clinton?

    I take it you support Obama. That's your perogative but might I suggest you spend your time lighting into members of the press actually responsible for printing the dirt on the candidate if you don't like it, instead of a forum member making a simple observation.
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    PLEASE REMEMBER THAT OBAMA SAID ON NATIONAL TV DURING THE LAST DEBATE THAT HE WAS THE ONLY CANDIDATE ON THE STAGE WHO MARCHED DURING THE ILLEGAL ALIEN MARCHES WITH THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    He was quite proud of the fact that instead of standing on the side of America's laws, and our Border Patrol....he marched in Chicago along side Emma Lozano (and her Mexican communist illegal alien advocacy group) ...and the million or so other illegal aliens. Obama actually wears this as a badge of honor....UNFIT TO BE EITHER SENATOR OR PRESIDENT.

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    quote] After 7 years of the current administration full of crooks and idiots, Americans really need to focus on the IQ's and sanity of the candidates instead of the race and fear mongering rumor mills surrounding the next potential POTUS.[/quote]

    You are correct, WhatMattersMost, and Obama's IQ is high enough to allow him to be able to fool millions of Americans. However, Obama certainly is not what is best for our country. Fact: He was raised a muslim (and though he will not admit it publicly, remains one). Fact: He refuses to pledge alegiance to the flag of the country he wants to lead. Fact: He turns away when the National Anthem is played. Fact: He attends and agrees with the tenets of a racist church. Fact: He supports giving away American jobs. Fact: He advocates giving amnesty and citizenship to criminals (yes, all illegal immigrants are criminals. They became so the first time they stepped on American soil.) POTUS? NO WAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quoted in part by WhatMattersMost:

    I don't think that the videos of Pastor Wright is "rumor mills". It's fact! The muslin garb doesn't bother me all politicians do that when visiting foreign countries. HOWEVER, Pastor Wright is a race baiter and hates white AMERICANS. He applauds Louis Farrakhan and his videos speak for themselves. IF a Republican made weak arguments for 20 years of membership in a KKK church the screaming would be heard even louder. NO it is Obama's pastor who is the fear monger and Obama's weak response speaks for itself. Let me give you a scripture, yep right out of the Bible, that Pastor Wright says he holds to.

    "A woman without discretions is as a swine with a gold ring in its nose."

    It doesn't have to be a woman. It can be anyone without discretion. You can try to dress it up any way you want to but it is still a swine.
    I never said anything about Pastor Wright. This SHOULD BE about what Obama says since he is the one running for POTUS.

    But since you brought him up, I will say this about Pastor Wright. What I find most intriguing is despite all of the conflict surrounding what was said by Pastor Wright, at the end of the day, not one thing he said about the sins and destruction visited upon others at the hands of America can be disputed as being untrue. He may not have said it eloquently, but it doesn't negate the fact that America did indeed bomb every single one of the countries he mentioned. As for the racial overtones, I agree that he is very angry with White America but, I'm not sure about the hatred part. He served in the military in the 60's during a time when racial inequality was at its peak and racism was the order of the day in every part of the country.

    Neither you nor I are capable of looking into anyones heart or soul, therefore you cannot assume it is hatred that he is feeling.

    Those who hate purely because of racial motivation usually form lynch mobs and brutally murder multitudes of complete strangers solely based on race. Hateful words never killed anyone.

    As for Farrakhan again hateful words never killed anyone. What you are basically saying is the fact that he is an associate of Pastor Wright, makes Obama guilty by association twice removed?

    Just curious are those of you who voted for Senor Boosh equally guilty for the lives lost in Iraq because he lied about why America should invade? Do you share responsibility for what looks like the impending doom of America via guilt by association?

    If you do, then you are well within your right to accuse Obama for being guilty by association.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azwreath
    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    Between this, his ties to criminals, the Muslim garb, the rather unpleasant and unappealing views of his wife coupled with her blatant contempt and animosity toward the US, etc. Obama is all but done. No amount of trying to gloss this stuff over is going to get him into the white house and there's just more and more being revealed almost daily.

    Wow, you make it sound as if he's part of the mob. The real estate transaction that occurred between himself and Resko (an individual currently on trial not yet convicted) was totally above board and Obama is NOT on trial, nor is he being investigated for any wrong doing in that transaction. The fact that Resko is a former fundraiser and ONE real estate transaction occurred between them does not equate to him being "tied to criminals".

    The Muslim garb?: Is actually Traditional African garb worn in Kenya and presented to him to be worn while visiting Kenya. Traditional garb of the nation being visited is presented to all foreign dignitaries. It's a sign of respect for their culture and customs.

    The race based fear mongering in America is so over the top its sad. After 7 years of the current administration full of crooks and idiots, Americans really need to focus on the IQ's and sanity of the candidates instead of the race and fear mongering rumor mills surrounding the next potential POTUS.


    Excuse me, but no.....I am not making it sound like anything. I was simply pointing out that with one negative thing coming out after another, each new thing seemingly worse than the one prior, and it becoming more difficult all the time for Obama to distance himself from the controversy, his once viable campaign is in trouble. And in doing so, I rattled off a laundry list of the items he's gotten negative press over.

    Did I accuse him of these things? No, I did not. Did I go into a huge diatribe as to why he should withdraw from the race because of these things? No I did not.

    I mentioned these things only because they are part of the growing list damaging to his campaign.

    And where "race based fear mongering" figures into it, I have no idea. Do you attach those labels when dirt is dished on McCain? Or Hillary Clinton?

    I take it you support Obama. That's your perogative but might I suggest you spend your time lighting into members of the press actually responsible for printing the dirt on the candidate if you don't like it, instead of a forum member making a simple observation.
    The problem is that you are quoting untruths as if they were factual information, otherwise there would have been no need for me to correctt your disinformation. Accusations should at the very least be truthful in order to justify the accusations don't you agree?

    For the record, I don't support any of the top 3 since they are all fans of amnesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quoted in part by WhatMattersMost:

    I don't think that the videos of Pastor Wright is "rumor mills". It's fact! The muslin garb doesn't bother me all politicians do that when visiting foreign countries. HOWEVER, Pastor Wright is a race baiter and hates white AMERICANS. He applauds Louis Farrakhan and his videos speak for themselves. IF a Republican made weak arguments for 20 years of membership in a KKK church the screaming would be heard even louder. NO it is Obama's pastor who is the fear monger and Obama's weak response speaks for itself. Let me give you a scripture, yep right out of the Bible, that Pastor Wright says he holds to.

    "A woman without discretions is as a swine with a gold ring in its nose."

    It doesn't have to be a woman. It can be anyone without discretion. You can try to dress it up any way you want to but it is still a swine.
    I never said anything about Pastor Wright. This SHOULD BE about what Obama says since he is the one running for POTUS.

    But since you brought him up, I will say this about Pastor Wright. What I find most intriguing is despite all of the conflict surrounding what was said by Pastor Wright, at the end of the day, not one thing he said about the sins and destruction visited upon others at the hands of America can be disputed as being untrue. He may not have said it eloquently, but it doesn't negate the fact that America did indeed bomb every single one of the countries he mentioned. As for the racial overtones, I agree that he is very angry with White America but, I'm not sure about the hatred part. He served in the military in the 60's during a time when racial inequality was at its peak and racism was the order of the day in every part of the country.

    Neither you nor I are capable of looking into anyones heart or soul, therefore you cannot assume it is hatred that he is feeling.

    Those who hate purely because of racial motivation usually form lynch mobs and brutally murder multitudes of complete strangers solely based on race. Hateful words never killed anyone.

    As for Farrakhan again hateful words never killed anyone. What you are basically saying is the fact that he is an associate of Pastor Wright, makes Obama guilty by association twice removed?

    Just curious are those of you who voted for Senor Boosh equally guilty for the lives lost in Iraq because he lied about why America should invade? Do you share responsibility for what looks like the impending doom of America via guilt by association?

    If you do, then you are well within your right to accuse Obama for being guilty by association.
    Haven't you seen the video that he states "American invented the AIDS virus" to kill blacks. That isn't hate to you? Good grief.

    It's too bad that justification can be made for a hater who is black but boy oh boy if a white person what say the reverse of what he did about whites, Jackson, Farrakhan, Sharpton, and their like would be all over it alike bees to honey. NO I can make up my mind like anyone else.

    If Obama does not have the discretion to see that this is not the thinking of anyone most good hearted Americans would want for President, whether he is white, black, brown, pink, purple, or orange, then he is sadly mistaken. It is a character flaw on Obama's part and I could never vote for him.
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