The Argument Against Idiots: The Border - Part I
August 11, 2008 - 13:10 ET
-GLENN BECK

How to win the argument de jour with logic and facts


The issue:

The Border: Part One of thousands of arguments about Immigration

What the liberal whiners say:

1. 'Putting up a fence along the border sends the wrong signal to a friend and ally'
2. 'The only people crossing the border are good, decent, hard-working family people, here to make a better life'
3. 'The last thing we need is another Berlin Wall...this is supposed to be America!'

Your winning, logical, reasoned arguments:

1. Do YOU have a fence around your property? Is your neighbor offended by it? Did you put it up because you're a hateful racist, bent on keeping al who don't look like you off your property? Of course not. The old saying good fences make good neighbors has never been more true.

2. Well, there are some of those, and we'll discuss them another time. But there are also many drug smugglers and criminals, intent of harming American citizens. There are many like Jose Medellin, who just last week was finally executed for his crime of raping, torturing and brutally murdering two innocent teenage girls in Houston, Texas in 1993.

There are also armed military incursions across our border on a regular basis. Just last week, a U.S. border agent was held at gunpoint by Mexican military who'd crossed the border. They held him until back up border patrol agents arrived, then the retreated back across the border. Last month, Mexican commandos crossed the border all the way to Phoenix, Arizona, where they riddled a home with over 100 bullets, killing the American citizen inside, and had planned to ambush police responding to the incident, but ran out of ammunition. Several were caught by Phoenix police, the rest retreated back to Mexico. This is the 42 armed incursions into the United States by Mexican commandos since October...there's been over 300 since 2005. By the way, the Mexican authorities said their military personnel didn't know they'd crossed the border...a FENCE would help with that. After all, some might call an armed, military incursion across our border, an act of war.

3. First of all, we're not talking about a wall, we're talking about a fence. A fence designed to keep criminals, smugglers, potential terrorists, and yes, illegal aliens out...not, as was the case with the Berlin Wall, to keep our citizens IN. No one is trying to escape this country, so the Berlin Wall comparison shows that you possess all the intelligence of a bathroom bowl brush.

Over 1 MILLION people were apprehended by U.S. agents trying to sneak into the country last year. The Border Patrol estimates that they catch one in three. That means 2 million illegal aliens were successful sneaking into our nation. 2 MILLION per year! No nation of earth can sustain such an illegal influx.
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The Argument Against Idiots: The Border: Part Deux...or is it Troi?
September 17, 2008 - 13:06 ET
-GLENN BECK

How to win the argument de jour with logic and facts

The issue:

'The Border: Part Deux...or is it Troi?'

What the liberal whiners say:

'Well it's nice to see that you right-wing racists have been silenced on the border finally! Even your own party knows the border is not a problem.'

'Thanks to the Democrat led Congress who got the "Merida Initiative" passed, we're sending $1.4 billion to Mexico to help them with their battle against the drug cartels. The first $500 million has already been sent'

'All of that violence is happening on the Mexican side of the border, we don't have those problems on the U.S. side'

'You right wing kooks are always talking about these scary "Zetas"...ooh! Some little group of what, 70 trained commandos, big deal!'

Your winning, logical, reasoned arguments

1. Yeah, I guess we got carried away just because there's been between 70-100 U.S. citizens kidnapped in Laredo alone...more than in all of Iraq. According to Laredo Sheriff Rick Flores, who is a DEMOCRAT...not ONE of those Americans has been returned or recovered.

2. Yes, that's right. The fabulous "Merida Initiative." The initiative Mexican President, Philipe Calderon spoke of so eloquently, when he told Congress..."I cannot accept any submission or subordination…Give it to me. And give it to me without conditions!" Merida has been GREAT so far. Two weeks ago, they found ELEVEN beheaded bodies in MERIDA, the very city where they signed the agreement, and a 12th beheaded body was found about 50 miles away. All 12 beheadings were attributed to the drug cartels. I wonder how many they would've found if we hadn't sent that initial half billion dollars?

3. I think the families of the kidnap victims, and the U.S. citizens who've been murdered by the cartels in Texas, Arizona and California would argue with that. You might want to watch the "History Channel" special Rusty Fleming just made (he's the same person who made the movie "Drug Wars"). In this upcoming History Channel special, Rusty interviews an 18 year old American citizen who's in prison for multiple murders. He was recruited by the Mexican drug cartel commandos, the Zetas, while he was at Laredo Junior High. Laredo Junior High is, of course, in Texas...which is in the United States of America. He was 13 when they recruited him. He admits to over 40 murders...the first, when he was just 13 years old. Many of his victims were on OUR side of the border. The Zetas are recruiting more and more American kids, tempting them with huge sums of money, because they speak English and can get past the border check points.

4. Unfortunately, the original 70 have now become THOUSANDS. Here's what the FBI said about them: "Los Zetas are not only holding off the Mexican army, federal and state police, but are now seen as "an emerging threat to the United States". They are heavily armed with military fire-power, have their own helicopters for air evacuation, their own private jets, their own hospitals, doctors and clinics. They have taken over the Gulf Cartel, infiltrated the Mexican military, the Mexican police, and have set up operations in at least 6 U.S. states...Texas, California, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. But I guess we shouldn't be worried, right?

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