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    WashPo: Trump Will Announce Anti-Caravan Plan on Tuesday

    WashPo: Trump Will Announce Anti-Caravan Plan on Tuesday

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    President Donald Trump will announce Tuesday how he will use his extraordinary powers over legal immigration to block the caravan and other asylum-seeking economic migrants, according to the Washington Post.

    “A draft of the proposal reviewed by The Washington Post says the president can use his authority under Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act to declare certain migrants ineligible for asylum for national security reasons,” the Post reported.


    The little-used powers are in Section 212(f) of U.S. law, at 8 U.S. Code § 1182:

    Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
    But pro-migration advocates say that 212(f) clause cannot stop illegal migrants from jumping over the border wall into the United States and then use U.S. and international law to apply for asylum.


    These advocates say migrants — even those with invalid cases — are protected by the constitution’s Fith Amendment once they get onto U.S. territory. The clause — “No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law” — allows migrants to get court hearings, despite Presidential opposition, the advocates say.


    However, U.S. law does not require that asylum applicants be allowed to stay in the United States while their legal claims are considered by the courts, countered Christopher Hajec, the litigation director for the Immigration Law Reform Institute.


    President Trump has the legal authority to deport classes of migrants to an outside location where they can safely live until their appeals are heard, he said. Migrants would be allowed to appeal for asylum in court cases conducted via video, he told Breitbart News. “Some might get asylum,” he added.


    A 1903 decision by the Supreme provides allows officials with authority to deport migrants who set foot on U.S. territory, he said. The decision is titled Yamataya v. Fisher, and it covers migrants whoarrive legally at a border station and those who sneak over the line in between the border stations.


    In June, the Supreme Court agreed that 212(f) in8 U.S. Code § 1182 gives the president broad authority over who is allowed into the United States. The decision in Trump v. Hawaii said:


    By its terms, §1182(f) exudes deference to the President in every clause. It entrusts to the President the decisions whether and when to suspend entry, whose entry to suspend, for how long, and on what conditions. It thus vests the President with “ample power” to impose entry restrictions in addition to those elsewhere enumerated in the INA.

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    Migrants will protest their removal from the country, but the fact that they are neither citizens nor legal residents does reduce their ability to block Trump’s extraordinary power, Hajec said.


    Also, migrants who are seeking jobs are not eligible for asylum, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has reversed President Barack Obama’s policy of granting asylum to people who declare a fear of criminal gangs. These rules will narrow the number of migrants who are awarded asylum.


    The U.S. can get a safe location in Mexico or Central America to move the asylum applicants by using its economic power and its control over visas for foreign elites, Hajec said. For example, the President’s 212(f) power allows him to block the entry of any travelers, including the business owners and family members of Mexican elites, he said.


    The President’s 212(f) declaration can protect normal travel and business between the two countries. For example, he can block the entry of migrants while allowing quick passage by Mexicans with border-crossing documents, he said.


    A wide ban would allow the president to shut down the inflow of Central American migrants in the caravan and the cartels’ much larger labor-trafficking networks, Hajec said.


    The successful shutdown of the caravan migrants could also greatly damage the cartels’ labor-trafficking business, said Hajec.


    The business now works because it can smuggle migrants into the United States where they can get underground jobs to pay for the smuggling services. For example, Obama’s 2015 Flores legal decision allows the migrants who bring children and asks for asylum, to be released from detention after 20 days so they can get jobs to pay off the debt to the labor-trafficking cartels. Also, the court system is so clogged that asylum-seeking migrants can work legally for two or three years.


    Even when they get a deportation order, migrants can simply abscond and become illegal immigrants, and hide in the huge resident population of 11 to 22 million illegals.


    But if Trump prevents asylum-seekers from being released into the United States, and are instead holds them at a camp outside the United States, they cannot get jobs to pay the smugglers. Without the promise of payment, the smugglers will not try to sneak people into the United States.


    Sessions is also running a fast-paced legal process to prosecute most of the cartel-smuggled single adults who cross the border illegally without children. This zero-tolerance policy will deter migration because it allows officials to detain the migrants for several years once they are caught for the second time.



    Overall, the Washington-imposed economic policy of economic growth via immigration shifts wealth from young people towards older people by flooding the market with cheap white-collar and blue-collar foreign labor.
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    Good!!
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    Due process of law:

    1) Are you a US citizen...NO
    2) Do you posses a green card or authorization papers to be in the USA...NO
    3) Hit the road!!!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    This is not asylum.

    This is a bought and paid for INVASION from four foreign countries that are Narco States...Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras.

    Put them all on the Travel Ban. They cannot come here!

    Also, stop issuing Visa's to these countries.

    Reduce all incoming traffic from Mexico down to ONE lane and back them up to South America!

    Use every tool we have to stop this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Due process of law:

    1) Are you a US citizen...NO
    2) Do you posses a green card or authorization papers to be in the USA...NO
    3) Hit the road!!!
    Exactly!! Two question interview for ... DEPORTATION. That's all that's required, anyone can do it, you don't need "courts", you don't need "judges", and you don't need "hearings", you don't even need "due process of law", because neither their life, liberty nor property are at stake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    This is not asylum.
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    Exactly! People who want asylum do not carry the flag and sing the National Anthem of the country they are escaping from.

    If the purpose of this is to make them wait in another country, who pays for their housing, food, medical, TV's, entertainment, social workers? I'm sure the US will be picking up the bill for that.

    More kabuki theater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    This is not asylum.

    This is a bought and paid for INVASION from four foreign countries that are Narco States...Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras.

    Put them all on the Travel Ban. They cannot come here!

    Also, stop issuing Visa's to these countries.

    Reduce all incoming traffic from Mexico down to ONE lane and back them up to South America!

    Use every tool we have to stop this.
    Yes, and Implement Judy's Plan B. No aid or trade with these countries until their citizens stop entering our country illegally, including these phony asylum claims.
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    There must be strength and preparation for every scenario. Creative thinking and back up contingency plans of all types must be ready. We do not need excuses, weakness or fear for what the media and others will say. They are going to say things to force inaction.

    There will be staged scenarios by the activists leading the illegal aliens to our borders. Women and children to the front of the Trojan Horse caravan. There will be the ACLU, the lawyers, the tweets, etc. CNN, Univision, and others will be portraying America in the worst way for attempting to protect herself from mass foreign invasion.

    Mexico must be confronted with the truth of their assistance not resistance of the invading foreign citizens. Escorting the mob by a variety of transportation shows that they are complicit as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    There must be strength and preparation for every scenario. Creative thinking and back up contingency plans of all types must be ready. We do not need excuses, weakness or fear for what the media and others will say. They are going to say things to force inaction.

    There will be staged scenarios by the activists leading the illegal aliens to our borders. Women and children to the front of the Trojan Horse caravan. There will be the ACLU, the lawyers, the tweets, etc. CNN, Univision, and others will be portraying America in the worst way for attempting to protect herself from mass foreign invasion.

    Mexico must be confronted with the truth of their assistance not resistance of the invading foreign citizens. Escorting the mob by a variety of transportation shows that they are complicit as usual.

    Americans need to be strong and disregard this treasonous corrupt media. They call themselves the "Fourth Estate", my god, they don't even know what the term means, such a term doesn't even apply in the United States, "estates" originated in France, there were 3, the clergy, the nobility and the ordinary people. In England, there are three, the clergy, the nobility (both represented in the House of Lords) and the ordinary people (House of Commons). In the United States, there is only one, the ordinary people.

    They're such idiots.

    Be Strong Ordinary Americans!! VOTE REPUBLICAN ON NOVEMBER 6, 2018 SO WE CAN TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE ESTATE OF IDIOTS.

    Oh, and if someone shoots at you and you have a gun, you shoot them back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post


    President Trump has the legal authority to deport classes of migrants to an outside location where they can safely live until their appeals are heard, he said. Migrants would be allowed to appeal for asylum in court cases conducted via video, he told Breitbart News. “Some might get asylum,” he added.

    Anyone care to take a stab at explaining this.

    An outside location could be anywhere and I don't think the President has the authority to do that.

    He can't deport them unless he allows them in first. He said he was not going to allow them in, therefore can't deport unless he allows them in.

    As long as they are on Mexican soil, he doesn't have the authority to deport.

    This is confusing.
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