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    Escondido rental ban doesn't add up

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    Escondido rental ban doesn't add up

    By: BIM MCLEAN GANDER and CINDY ANN MURRAY - Commentary:

    Let's all agree on a few things:

    There are millions of illegal aliens residing in the United States. Some of these people live and work in Escondido.

    This condition exists because of the inequality of economic opportunity on the south side of our border relative to this side. This situation is unlikely to change anytime soon.


    The federal government has chosen not to enforce its immigration laws.

    Now, given these irrefutable conditions, let's see why Councilwoman Marie Waldron's proposal to deny housing to illegal aliens residing in Escondido makes no sense at all:

    1. Illegal aliens willing and able to pay rent are very likely to be gainfully employed. This is a fact that would be confirmed by a landlord in his own self-interest. After all, landlords prefer not to rent their investment property to criminals, gang members and drug dealers.

    2. It is irrational to think that an illegal immigrant to the United States, seeking employment, with limited or no command of the English language, would comprehend the U.S. welfare system and its infinite bureaucracy well enough to exploit that system.

    3. If approved, Waldron's proposal would force illegal renters (all of whom are earning wages from employers who hired them illegally) to become homeless, or to find other, illegal, jobs elsewhere.

    4. Waldron's proposal flies in the face of five decades of progress in anti-discrimination law in providing housing. Her proposal would be both difficult and expensive to enforce. If illegal aliens can deceive willing employers, why couldn't they be equally adept at deceiving willing landlords?

    Clearly, Waldron's proposal makes no economic or practical sense. It serves only to salve the frustration of many with our federal government's complete inability to confront the related problems of border control and terrorism in our land. It's time to find new leadership at that level with the courage and the vision to tackle those problems. Current leadership has failed miserably.

    -- Bim McLean Gander and Cindy Ann Murray live in Escondido.
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    After all, landlords prefer not to rent their investment property to criminals, gang members and drug dealers.
    Oh yeah, who ever heard of illegal aliens being criminals, gang members and drug dealers.

    These reporters have no clue as to why this type of ordinance is needed. In addition to the fact that illegal aliens are well, ILLEGAL, and should not be here in the first place, they overcrowd apartments and houses, often times living with 30-45 males or 3 or 4 families per unit. If a unit is made for a single family and is filled with 20-40 people, including masses of children, what kind of stress does that put on local schools, hospitals, social services, etc.

    Drive by any school in San Diego County, other than in the most affluent neighborhoods, you will be lucky to see 2 or 3 out of a 100 kids who are not Mexican.

    Drive down any street, every Mexican woman of child bearing age you see is pushing a double or triple stroller, with a dozen more little Mexi-rugrats in tow, none of whom speaks a word of English.

    Go to any grocery store, every Mexican woman whips out a welfare card to pay for their hundreds of dollars worth of baby formula, diapers and cerveza.

    Drive by any local welfare office and you will see cars with Mexico license plates in the parking lot.

    Drive through most any neighborhood and you see Mexican gang banger graffiti covering every exposed surface.

    Listen outside your window every night and you will hear the sounds of gunshots, police sirens, car alarms and Mariachi.
    [b][i][size=117]"Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.â€

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    Re: Escondido rental ban doesn't add up

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian503a
    http://www.nctimes.com

    Escondido, CA Focus Campaign
    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... c&p=207267

    Escondido rental ban doesn't add up

    By: BIM MCLEAN GANDER and CINDY ANN MURRAY - Commentary:

    Let's all agree on a few things:

    There are millions of illegal aliens residing in the United States. Some of these people live and work in Escondido.

    This condition exists because of the inequality of economic opportunity on the south side of our border relative to this side. This situation is unlikely to change anytime soon.


    The federal government has chosen not to enforce its immigration laws.

    Now, given these irrefutable conditions, let's see why Councilwoman Marie Waldron's proposal to deny housing to illegal aliens residing in Escondido makes no sense at all:

    1. Illegal aliens willing and able to pay rent are very likely to be gainfully employed. This is a fact that would be confirmed by a landlord in his own self-interest. After all, landlords prefer not to rent their investment property to criminals, gang members and drug dealers.

    2. It is irrational to think that an illegal immigrant to the United States, seeking employment, with limited or no command of the English language, would comprehend the U.S. welfare system and its infinite bureaucracy well enough to exploit that system.

    3. If approved, Waldron's proposal would force illegal renters (all of whom are earning wages from employers who hired them illegally) to become homeless, or to find other, illegal, jobs elsewhere.

    4. Waldron's proposal flies in the face of five decades of progress in anti-discrimination law in providing housing. Her proposal would be both difficult and expensive to enforce. If illegal aliens can deceive willing employers, why couldn't they be equally adept at deceiving willing landlords?

    Clearly, Waldron's proposal makes no economic or practical sense. It serves only to salve the frustration of many with our federal government's complete inability to confront the related problems of border control and terrorism in our land. It's time to find new leadership at that level with the courage and the vision to tackle those problems. Current leadership has failed miserably.

    -- Bim McLean Gander and Cindy Ann Murray live in Escondido.
    I'll address those points:

    1. False. My experience dealing with illegal alien households with the local Crime Watch is that the rentals are generally obtained by one person who actually has a job, but that as many as six to eight adults will then move into a three-bedroom house. One or more of them may be engaged in drug dealing or other criminal activity. We've seen plenty of drug dens appear in our neighborhoods in this fashion. It's such a problem that my own do-nothing city government has begun using codes limiting the number of adults per sqaure foot and per bedroom to get rid of these undesirable households.

    2. This gets a two-part answer. Part one is that all of these services are provided with bilingual instructions and that most of these agencies have plenty of Spanish-speaking employees. Part two is that the illegal community is quite active in providing specific instructions for milking our system. It's not just limited to instructions for obtaining falsified ID and SSNs and hopping on the federal gravy train, but also includes information about ridiculous federal programs that provide assistance for illegals in obtaining mortgages.

    3. Or, it may result in their going back home. Who cares whether or not they earn wages?

    4. Anti-discrimination laws were meant to be applied based upon race, disability, or other conditions of birth or acts of God, NOT upon willful criminal behavior. Taking the author's silly premise to its logical conclusion, we should not be allowed to limit where sex offenders may live.

    The only thing that is "clear" is that the author has an impaired logic circuit.

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    Talk about being "naive". Whew!

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    3. If approved, Waldron's proposal would force illegal renters (all of whom are earning wages from employers who hired them illegally) to become homeless, or to find other, illegal, jobs elsewhere.
    DUHHH!, is`nt that the point?
    Any illegal that comes in this country illegally and ignores our laws a policies and then thinks that they can establish themselves as if they were legal, is like a person who tries to live in a house made of card board in Seattle, sooner or later is going to come down on them.

    This couple needs to go back to school, it seems that they don`t know the definition of Illegal.
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