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    Mexico outraged at U.S. as border gets tighter

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    Posted on Sun, May. 22, 2005


    MEXICO

    Mexico outraged at U.S. as border gets tighter

    Mexican President Vicente Fox was hoping that U.S. immigration policy would become more lenient. The opposite has occurred.

    BY SUSANA HAYWARD

    Knight Ridder News Service

    MEXICO CITY - When President Vicente Fox came into office in late 2000, he hoped his legacy would be U.S. immigration revisions that would allow Mexicans to cross the border into the United States and work legally.

    Now, that vision is crumbling in the face of legislation President Bush signed earlier this month that authorizes the construction of more walls along the border and in effect invalidates Mexico-issued ID cards for Mexicans living in the United States.

    Fox is pledging to continue his efforts for migrants until his term ends in December 2006. But officials are angry and disheartened at what they see as walls going up between the United States and Mexico instead of coming down.

    Fox's government is planning to send a diplomatic protest over the law, the first the country has ever formally presented to the United States.

    Fox expressed his anger in a recent speech: ``I respect the sovereignty of the United States and its freedom to take such decisions and measures, but frankly it's not the right approach between friends and neighbors.''

    Much of the news coverage of his comments focused on the racial overtones of his defense of Mexican migrants' role in the U.S. economy -- he said Mexicans ''are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do.'' The Mexican government eventually apologized for offending African-Americans.

    FRUSTRATION

    But the comments underlined Fox's frustration and anxiety at the passage of the so-called Real ID Act, which was attached to an $82 billion spending bill to pay for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The legislation requires that ID cards meet strict federal requirements in three years if they'll be used to request U.S. government services or board an airliner. It also allows the Homeland Security Department to construct a second wall and other barriers around the 150-foot metal wall that's along the border between Tijuana and San Diego.

    It wasn't supposed to turn out this way. A rancher and former governor of Guanajuato state, Fox made immigration a top priority. During his campaigns, he promised to fight for an open border and for legalizing Mexicans in the United States. He expected Bush, also a former governor with a ranch, to be an ally.

    Fox and Bush began a close relationship after they took office, Fox in December 2000 and Bush a month later. They vowed to enrich ties and work on legalizing or giving amnesty to at least 4 million Mexicans and other undocumented workers in the U.S.

    But a chill followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Bush didn't push an immigration accord. Fox didn't support the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Last year, there was renewed optimism when Bush proposed a program to allow temporary workers, similar to guest programs of the past. But it's lingered in Congress.

    Sens. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced a bill earlier this month that would allow immigrants to seek legal status after living in the United States for three years, but its passage is considered an uphill battle.

    Immigration is the one political constant in Mexico, ahead of next year's July presidential elections. Even Fox's worst political enemies agree with his criticism of the United States. Mexico City Mayor Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left-of-center Democratic Revolutionary Party, the favorite to succeed Fox, said the United States should help Mexico create jobs, not build walls.

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    Others agree, calling for a ``united, nonpartisan protest.''

    ''This is an anti-immigration campaign without precedent. It's Mexico against Republicans, [Calif. Gov. Arnold] Schwarzenegger, the Minutemen in Arizona, Bush's entire Cabinet,'' said Primitivo Rodriguez, a Mexican political scientist who specializes in immigration and is working to pass a bill here that would allow Mexicans abroad to vote in the 2006 elections.

    The anger over the U.S. legislation is such that diplomatic protests are only one of the plans. Mexican community leaders have advocated going on strike to prove that U.S. employers couldn't survive without cheap Mexican labor.

    ''These measures are myopic, racist and xenophobic,'' said Amalia Garcia, the left-of-center governor of Zacatecas state, which has one of the country's highest emigration rates. ``Building walls and preventing migrants from getting a driver's license don't solve any security problems.''
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    That's OK Fox, because we are frustrated that not enough is being done to shut down illegal immigration. :P

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    Re: Mexico outraged at U.S. as border gets tighter

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    Posted on Sun, May. 22, 2005


    MEXICO

    Mexico outraged at U.S. as border gets tighter

    Sixx says: Not as outraged as I AM
    Mexican President Vicente Fox was hoping that U.S. immigration policy would become more lenient. The opposite has occurred.

    BY SUSANA HAYWARD

    Knight Ridder News Service

    MEXICO CITY - When President Vicente Fox came into office in late 2000, he hoped his legacy would be U.S. immigration revisions that would allow Mexicans to cross the border into the United States and work legally.

    Now, that vision is crumbling in the face of legislation President Bush signed earlier this month that authorizes the construction of more walls along the border and in effect invalidates Mexico-issued ID cards for Mexicans living in the United States.

    Sixx says: They need to WALLS, as in the Great Wall Of China, patroled with emaciated and rabid dogs.

    Fox is pledging to continue his efforts for migrants until his term ends in December 2006. But officials are angry and disheartened at what they see as walls going up between the United States and Mexico instead of coming down.

    Fox's government is planning to send a diplomatic protest over the law, the first the country has ever formally presented to the United States.

    Fox expressed his anger in a recent speech: ``I respect the sovereignty of the United States and its freedom to take such decisions and measures, but frankly it's not the right approach between friends and neighbors.''

    Sixx says: No you don't and we are not neighbors or FRIENDS, IDIOT



    Much of the news coverage of his comments focused on the racial overtones of his defense of Mexican migrants' role in the U.S. economy -- he said Mexicans ''are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do.'' The Mexican government eventually apologized for offending African-Americans.

    Sixx says: No, they didn't. Put it on a billboard in Dallas, Ft. Worth, Mineral Wells, etc. in ENGLISH. Then come to my home outside of Dallas and apologize to ME

    FRUSTRATION

    But the comments underlined Fox's frustration and anxiety at the passage of the so-called Real ID Act, which was attached to an $82 billion spending bill to pay for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The legislation requires that ID cards meet strict federal requirements in three years if they'll be used to request U.S. government services or board an airliner. It also allows the Homeland Security Department to construct a second wall and other barriers around the 150-foot metal wall that's along the border between Tijuana and San Diego.

    It wasn't supposed to turn out this way. A rancher and former governor of Guanajuato state, Fox made immigration a top priority. During his campaigns, he promised to fight for an open border and for legalizing Mexicans in the United States. He expected Bush, also a former governor with a ranch, to be an ally.

    Sixx says:Oh he still is. He will find a way to circumvent the law. After his wife got what she had coming in the Middle East today, he won't have much to do but talk to that stupid dog, Barney and Karl Rove a.k.a Karl Marx

    Fox and Bush began a close relationship after they took office, Fox in December 2000 and Bush a month later. They vowed to enrich ties and work on legalizing or giving amnesty to at least 4 million Mexicans and other undocumented workers in the U.S.

    But a chill followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Bush didn't push an immigration accord. Fox didn't support the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Last year, there was renewed optimism when Bush proposed a program to allow temporary workers, similar to guest programs of the past. But it's lingered in Congress.

    Sens. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced a bill earlier this month that would allow immigrants to seek legal status after living in the United States for three years, but its passage is considered an uphill battle.

    Immigration is the one political constant in Mexico, ahead of next year's July presidential elections. Even Fox's worst political enemies agree with his criticism of the United States. Mexico City Mayor Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left-of-center Democratic Revolutionary Party, the favorite to succeed Fox, said the United States should help Mexico create jobs, not build walls.

    Sixx says: Build your own damn jobs. You can get work building the wall, from the south end of the wall


    UNITED PROTEST

    Others agree, calling for a ``united, nonpartisan protest.''

    ''This is an anti-immigration campaign without precedent. It's Mexico against Republicans, [Calif. Gov. Arnold] Schwarzenegger, the Minutemen in Arizona, Bush's entire Cabinet,'' said Primitivo Rodriguez, a Mexican political scientist who specializes in immigration and is working to pass a bill here that would allow Mexicans abroad to vote in the 2006 elections.

    Sixx says: Don't forget ALIPAC

    The anger over the U.S. legislation is such that diplomatic protests are only one of the plans. Mexican community leaders have advocated going on strike to prove that U.S. employers couldn't survive without cheap Mexican labor.

    Sixx says: Better for you to go on strike than have Sixx strike, fool



    ''These measures are myopic, racist and xenophobic,'' said Amalia Garcia, the left-of-center governor of Zacatecas state, which has one of the country's highest emigration rates. ``Building walls and preventing migrants from getting a driver's license don't solve any security problems.''
    Sixx says: We are not RACIST. Stop using that tripe. We are Americans of all colors, races, religions, socioeconomic groups, veterans. You are the racist, the myopic, and xenophobic Turd World disease carrying miscreants. The wall has done wonders in China for centuries. Drive there and leave us ALONE.
    FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

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    Great response SIXX
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    When President Vicente Fox came into office in late 2000, he hoped his legacy would be U.S. immigration revisions that would allow Mexicans to cross the border into the United States and work legally.
    Build your own legacy, without the help of the US. You can't? Sorry.

    Fox expressed his anger in a recent speech: ``I respect the sovereignty of the United States and its freedom to take such decisions and measures, but frankly it's not the right approach between friends and neighbors.''
    Keep your citizens in Mexico. Your citizens, your problem. What's the problem? Not up to the task? All talk, no action.

    Immigration is the one political constant in Mexico, ahead of next year's July presidential elections. Even Fox's worst political enemies agree with his criticism of the United States. Mexico City Mayor Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left-of-center Democratic Revolutionary Party, the favorite to succeed Fox, said the United States should help Mexico create jobs, not build walls.
    Same response to you Manuel López Obrador. Your citizens, your problem. Not up to the task? All talk and no action?
    Doesn't surprise me at all. You have to love Mexican politicians. Always running their mouths off. When it comes time for action, they are nowhere to be found.

    Mexican politicians have alligator mouths and hummingbird butts.
    Why are so many of your citizens coming to the US? Is it because of the great conditions in Mexico? What are you doing for your citizens?
    Mexico is roughly equivilent to a landfill. What is your plan for improvement? Let's see some action--not your usual BS talk.
    You have no plan. Pulled up lame at the post again.
    http://www.alipac.us Enforce immigration laws!

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