Thread: Church eyes immigration reform

washingtontimes.com

Church eyes immigration reform
By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 10, 2005


The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America is expected to adopt a resolution this week promising to work for immigration reforms in the United States, becoming the latest religious denomination to boost its efforts to advocate for immigrants and refugees.

At its annual conference in Florida , the ELCA will call on its 10,000 congregations and nearly 5 million members to commit "to being an advocate and justice seeker in regard to refugee and immigration issues."

The resolution does not mention illegal aliens, although it criticizes "burdensome laws and procedures and unjust practices [that] undermine our security."

The ELCA's action is the latest push by national religious officials in favor of loosening restrictions on immigration.

In May, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops announced an immigration project and last month endorsed a bill sponsored by Sens. John McCain, Arizona Republican, and Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat. Their bill would give illegal aliens a multistep path to citizenship and also create a new program for 400,000 new foreign workers a year, with the possibility of eventual citizenship.

Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick, Washington's archbishop, said the Bible supports the bishops' call to legalize illegal immigration.

"We go right to the New Testament and say, 'Him or her who is without sin cast the first stone,'?" he said during the May announcement. "How many of us have not violated some laws, whatever they might have been -- either they're traffic laws or immigration laws or tax laws, something like that."

Meanwhile, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, in a statement endorsed by 15 national Jewish organizations and dozens of local groups, called for legislation that would "provide a path to citizenship for undocumented migrants."

The National Immigration Forum, which supports legalizing aliens, said the efforts by religious communities should send a signal to Congress.

"Our nation's religious leaders are monitoring the immigration debate and stand ready to galvanize their respective communities in support of real reform," the forum said.

In other business, the ELCA will consider a proposal on whether to allow active homosexual clergy. Current policy in the denomination allows clergy who have a homosexual orientation to be ordained, but stipulates they must remain celibate.

The church is considering a variety of alternatives, including one that would allow applicants in "lifelong, committed and faithful same-sex relationships" to be ordained with the approval of local church leaders and bishops.

The homosexual clergy policy is scheduled for tomorrow and Friday, while the immigration resolution could be voted on today.

Both the ELCA and the Catholic bishops are putting a particular emphasis on services for refugees. The ELCA is also encouraging its bishops to establish task forces to help facilitate refugees and immigrants as they assimilate into society.

The Lutheran Church is part of the OBL, Open Borders Lobby. They were listed in the study (80 pages) that I posted a while back written by David Horowitz.

Guess they feel like they are "losing ground" and need to come out of their closets.

CAUTION: religious organizations are 501 C 3 tax exempt religious organizations and prohibited from using their tax payer underwritten organizations to "impact public policy or influence legislation".

In other words, stay out of our politics. Pass your plates and deliver sermons. THAT's all you can do tax free Boys and Girls.

"We go right to the New Testament and say, 'Him or her who is without sin cast the first stone,'?" he said during the May announcement. "How many of us have not violated some laws, whatever they might have been -- either they're traffic laws or immigration laws or tax laws, something like that."

Maybe we should just repeal all of the laws and have total anarchy. I wonder if these so called churches would support that.

Ooooh I don't think that will be necessary....look what they did to Martha Stewart for the simple "lie" of saying she spoke to her stockbroker instead of her stockbroker's assistant.

I think the Lutheran Church better be very careful standing up for LAWBREAKERS in the United States!!

Funny....how low they will go isn't it to keep their illegal alien open borders agenda....ANARCHY!!

A Church....no less that is SUPPOSED to be teaching good citizenship, good moral character, raising law-abiding citizens!

A little TIDBIT for ya'll. In Germany today, where the Lutheran Church was founded of course by Martin Luther...they have a CHURCH TAX...oh yeeeeeah....collected by the GOVERNMENT on all members of a CHURCH in GERMANY!!

I'm sure they plan to have Church Taxes under the UN/WTO/World Court One World Government.

Why else would the Lutheran Church be supporting open borders, involving themselves with illegal aliens? Why else would the Catholic Church have appointed a new Pope from Germany?

That's alot of Church connections to Germany isn't it? I thought so. Which is why I researched and found the little CHURCH TAX deal in Germany.

It's ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY!!

Originally Posted by Judy

Ooooh I don't think that will be necessary....look what they did to Martha Stewart for the simple "lie" of saying she spoke to her stockbroker instead of her stockbroker's assistant.

I think the Lutheran Church better be very careful standing up for LAWBREAKERS in the United States!!

Funny....how low they will go isn't it to keep their illegal alien open borders agenda....ANARCHY!!

A Church....no less that is SUPPOSED to be teaching good citizenship, good moral character, raising law-abiding citizens!

A little TIDBIT for ya'll. In Germany today, where the Lutheran Church was founded of course by Martin Luther...they have a CHURCH TAX...oh yeeeeeah....collected by the GOVERNMENT on all members of a CHURCH in GERMANY!!

I'm sure they plan to have Church Taxes under the UN/WTO/World Court One World Government.

Why else would the Lutheran Church be supporting open borders, involving themselves with illegal aliens? Why else would the Catholic Church have appointed a new Pope from Germany?

That's alot of Church connections to Germany isn't it? I thought so. Which is why I researched and found the little CHURCH TAX deal in Germany.

It's ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY!!

Your so right that it's about the money. The bottom line so to speak. Just follow the paper trail is what I say. That's why I'm so leery of churches anymore. I believe in God, Jesus and the bible, etc. Always have, always will, but some of these churches are just so corrupt that they twist the bible around into what they want it to say (I call it bible revisionism) to support their evil, greedy agenda. God warns about these false churches with false prophets that preach false doctrine in the bible. I totally believe we are witnessing the end of days folks.

We are and there is only ONE people that can stop it and that's the Americans. That's why the truck driver from Canada came running out of the plant that day looking for the "owner". He wanted to know why the AMERICANS hadn't stopped this North American Community merger with Canada and Mexico.

THE CANADIANS EXPECTED AMERICANS to end this Nonsense.

I was outraged to have to tell him that we had just learned about it and were frantically trying to put an end to it.

He left saying, YOU GUYS have to do it or everyone from Canada and Mexico will be pouring into your country and there won't be an America left.

A TRUCK DRIVER FROM CANADA knew more about our political situation than we did.

People all over the world depend on the United States and more specifically the American People to help keep things moving forward in a proper direction. Forget the headlines; forget the down with America when we invade a country; forget all that. That's just stuff directed at our despicable government.

People around the world KNOW the difference between THE AMERICANS and the US Government.

They study their history and don't forget it. Everyone knows the future of the WORLD depends on what each of US as AMERICANS decides to do about saving our nation; what we intend to do with Traitors; and how we intend to get our nation back on track.

THEY KNOW that if we go down the tubes, they go down the tubes.

THEY KNOW THAT.

NOW WE KNOW THAT.

It's time to do everything possible to stop this nonsense now.

DON'T SPEND, SAVE!!

Break the Globalists; drain their purse; fill yours; send these Traitors packing to the Poor House; bad revenue reports will get them fired; then they'll soon be penniless; jobless; and ready for their Treason Trials!!

GET BUSH, the ManiaX out of the White House and Cheney too!!

IMPEACH AND REMOVE THEM BOTH FROM OFFICE NOW!!

Break the Globalists; drain their purse; fill yours; send these Traitors packing to the Poor House; bad revenue reports will get them fired; then they'll soon be penniless; jobless; and ready for their Treason Trials!!

GET BUSH, the ManiaX out of the White House and Cheney too!!

IMPEACH AND REMOVE THEM BOTH FROM OFFICE NOW!!

Amen. Death to Globalism!!!