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    Poll regarding driver's licenses for illegals

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    Illegal immigrant pleads guilty in crash By William C. Lhotka
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Wednesday, Nov. 28 2007

    St. Louis County — An illegal immigrant who admitted causing a traffic crash that killed a 21-year-old woman in Maryland Heights earlier this year faces a potential sentence of up to 33 years in prison.

    Pedro Santos, 27, pleaded guilty Monday in St. Louis County Circuit Court to charges of involuntary manslaughter, leaving the scene of an accident and two counts of second-degree assault.

    The wreck just before midnight April 20 killed Nicole Allen, 21, of St. Louis
    County. She was a junior at the University of Missouri-St. Louis and a 2004 graduate of Parkway North High School.

    Through an interpreter, Santos admitted before Judge Michael T. Jamison that he was drunk when he rammed his girlfriend's Lincoln Town Car into the back of an Acura that stopped for a red signal at Marine Avenue and Bennington Place. Allen was a passenger in the Acura.

    Santos ran away, police said. Officers caught him three hours later in nearby woods.

    Prosecutor Alan M. Key Jr. and defense attorney Stephen Zarky were unable to reach agreement on a sentence, so Santos' fate is left to Jamison.

    The judge ordered a pre-sentence investigation by the Board of Probation and Parole, and set sentencing for Jan. 10. The potential penalty ranges from probation to 33 years in prison.

    The driver of the Acura, Larry Lane, 24, and another passenger, Charles Miller, 28, were seriously injured. The assault charges were in regard to them.

    Santos told police he was an illegal immigrant and had been working as a cook. He had a Mexican drivers license.

    State officials said that driving on a Mexican license during a brief visit was OK, but that those who stayed must get a Missouri license.

    blhotka@post-dispatch.com | 314-615-3283

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    The poll disappeared b/4 I could copy it.....it was 90% as NO
    The difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien is the equivalent of the difference between a burglar and a houseguest. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    Should illegal immigrants be allowed to have driver's licenses?

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    How many polls is it going to take for the politicians to get the message?
    Do the politicians hope the public will get sick of voting so the polls shift their way? I will keep voting NO DL for ILLEGALS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    The poll disappeared b/4 I could copy it.....it was 90% as NO
    Grandmasmad:
    Your signature line says "Ron Paul seems to not support borders" ... I don't know where you read that, but here is his stand on border security and immigration. This is taken straight from his website where he has a list of issues and his stand on each of them. There is no political double-speak, he is very straight-forward about where he stands on each issue.

    Border Security and Immigration Reform
    The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:
    Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
    Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
    No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
    No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
    End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
    Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
    Illegal immigration and the war in Iraq have 2 things in common:
    1. Nationalize expenses 2. Privatize profits
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