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06-06-2009, 01:41 PM #1
Bodies from Air France flight found
Bodies from Air France flight found
PARIS, France (CNN) -- The bodies of two men -- believed to be from Monday's crash of an Air France plane -- were found Saturday morning, a Brazilian air force spokesman said Saturday.
A seat and a suitcase were recovered at sea by a vessel participating in the search, Jorge Amaral said. Also found were a backpack containing a laptop, an airline ticket and a oxygen mask, the Brazilian navy and air force said.
Air force officials announced the news in Recife, Brazil. The items were discovered 420 miles north of the Fernando de Noronha islands, 220 miles (355 kilometers) off the northeast coast of Brazil.
All 228 passengers and crew aboard the Airbus 330 are presumed to have died when the plane disappeared northeast of the islands.
The flight originated in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and was en route to Paris, France. Map of Flight 447's flight path »
Search teams were still trying to find debris from the jet Saturday, two days after an air force official said debris plucked from the ocean was not from the Air France jet.
Earlier Saturday, aviation investigators said Flight 447 sent out 24 automated error messages, including one saying the aircraft's autopilot had disengaged, before it vanished with 228 people on board.
They also reported that the airline had failed to replace a part, as recommended by the manufacturer, Airbus.
Airbus had advised airlines to update equipment that monitors speed, known as Pitot tubes. The recommendation was a result of technological developments and improvements, an Airbus spokesman told CNN's Richard Quest. The change was not mandatory, and the spokesman would not comment on Air France's failure to follow the advice.
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Planes have crashed because of faulty or blocked Pitot tubes in the past, Quest said, and there was clearly something wrong with the doomed plane's speed-monitoring equipment.
But it may be a mistake to place too much emphasis on the Pitot tubes, he added, as the jet apparently was experiencing massive system failures.
Even as they analyzed the error messages and satellite images of the doomed flight's path, investigators said they still have a lot of work to determine what caused the plane to go down. Watch as experts question whether recovery is possible »
"I would just like to ask you to bear in mind that all of this is dynamic and there are a lot of question marks," said Paul-Louis Arslanian, head of France's accident investigation bureau.
"We don't know how the aircraft entered the water. We don't know how these pieces of debris entered into the water and that you have to take into account the current ... and the shape of the ocean floor."
The error messages suggest that the plane may have been flying too fast or too slow through the stormy weather it encountered before the crash, officials said.
In addition, investigators have said the plane's autopilot disengaged, cabin pressure was lost, and there was an electrical failure before the disaster.
The jet's manufacturer, Airbus, sent a Telex to operators of Airbus models reminding them of what to do when speed indicators give conflicting readings.
The spokesman said the notice does not mean there is any major flaw in the aircraft but is simply a reminder to pilots of what to do in the cockpit if they get conflicting information about air speed.
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06-06-2009, 03:05 PM #2
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Very sad .
This is such a terrible tragedy. I am so sorry for all of the innocent lives that were lost and for their family and friends.
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06-07-2009, 02:54 PM #3
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How could Air France forget to replace the pitot tubes? There is not ONE airline out there that would fly an aircraft without knowing true airspeed. I am a desktop pilot (Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004) and I fly large commercial jets all the time. The A-330 has a maximum speed of about 475 knots, and anything above that would rip the plane apart. Since most airliners fly anywhere from .78-.82 mach at cruise altitude , they are already pushing the limits of the airframe. If the pitot tubes were in fact faulty, the pilots could have EASILY approached .85 mach or higher which would have been disastrous.
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