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    NATIONAL AMMO SHORTAGE CAUSED BY FEAR OF OBAMA, LEFTISTS



    NATIONAL AMMO SHORTAGE CAUSED BY FEAR OF OBAMA, LEFTISTS

    By NWV News writer Jim Kouri
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    September 26, 2009
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    While the dismal economic picture in America hasn't caused "bank runs" wherein customers demand to withdraw their savings from banks across the country -- a frequent occurrence during the Great Depression -- gun owners are causing a run of their own: a national "gun shop run" for ammunition.

    Ammunition manufacturers report their factories are producing ammunition at record rates and keeping their facilities operating 24/7. Yet, they still cannot keep up with the demand http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/w ... 55874.html for bullets for everything from handguns to hunting rifles.

    Gun store owners and manufacturers claim this is the first time they have ever seen such a drastic shortage in ammunition. According to gun rights activists and enthusiasts, ammunition is a scarce commodity and has been getting scarcer this year.

    "I have never seen such a situation in all my years as a gun owner, hunter and cop," said Edna Aquino, a New York police officer and shooting instructor.

    "I'm hearing from fellow shooters that they are stockpiling ammunition these days because they are afraid of what they're seeing in this country," she said.

    Aquino and others believe that after passing their health care plan, President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress will pass more antigun legislation. These gun owners do not believe the rhetoric of the politicians on the left who claim they support gun ownership, but propose all types of new laws and regulations. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =102851807

    When the left-leaning Barack Obama was inaugurated President of the United States last January, gun sales increased substantially. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reported over six million new requests for pre-sale in the first five months of 2009. According to the FBI, there was a 26% increase in these mandatory background checks for gun sales.

    "That is going to cause an upswing in ammunition sales," said Larry Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association representing about 5,000 members. "Without bullets a gun is just a paper weight."

    When gun groups questioned the reason for the current situation, they were told by the government that part of the shortage is caused by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, according to political strategist Mike Baker, that excuse doesn't "pass the smell test."

    "The US military uses different types of weapons than civilian gun owners, for the most part. Different types of weapons means different types of ammo," he said.

    American gun owners usually purchase about seven billion rounds of ammo annually, according to the National Rifle Association. However, in the past year the NRA says Americans bought two billion more bullets than usual.

    "It always happens when the Democrats get in office. It happened with Clinton and Obama is even stronger for gun control. Ammunition will be the first step, so I'm stocking up while I can," said one New Jersey gun dealer.

    He points to the latest trend in the never ending government regulation of gun ownership: Ammo Control.

    "Gun control fanatics, frustrated in their attempts to impose severely restrictive regulations on the gun rights of law-abiding American citizens, apparently think that if they push severe restrictions on ammunition acquisition and possession, they'll come closer to their objective of restricting if not eliminating the individual Second Amendment civil right to keep and bear arms," says John M. Snyder, known as "Washington's senior gun rights activist."

    "Ever since the so-called 'Beltway Sniper' case in 2001, there's been talk about not just gun registration, but ammo registration. This will make it mandatory for manufacturers of firearms ammunition to number every cartridge they make and to keep records of those cartridges," said Lt. Steven Rodgers, a cop in New Jersey.

    "Can't control guns? Well, they'll control the ammunition," he added.

    While a federal law is being considered by proponents of such laws, gun owners in individual states are witnessing what's referred to as Ammunition Accountability Acts being pushed through they're state legislatures by impatient lawmakers.

    Ammunition Accountability, http://www.ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm a liberal gun control organization, has developed sample legislation to achieve its purposes and reports that versions of it have been introduced in the legislatures of Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee and Washington, according to John Snyder.

    The sample legislation stipulates that, “each year in the United States, more than 30 percent of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved; handgun ammunition accounts for 80 percent of all ammunition sold in the United States; current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement;â€
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    I don't know how they would but.......

    People will probably start making their own ammno if the shortage ensues.
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    This is very scary.

    Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), What????????????and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

    Yes, those Right-Winger criminals love the Constitution, America and their families! Better put them in FEMA concentration camps before they say the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag! Sarcasm.
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    Re: I don't know how they would but.......

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    People will probably start making their own ammno if the shortage ensues




    So far we've been lucky........the gun shop we've been dealing with for years hasn't experienced shortages of anything.

    And the shooting clubs our sons belong to, which offer ammo for sale at a discount, aren't experiencing any problems with supply either.

    Just in case though, my husband has taken care of getting all of his reloading gear in order. As he said, he'd rather have it and never need it, then need it someday and not have it.
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    I have yet to have a problem buying ammo. All of this is a hoax. I unload at least a 100 rounds at the range with my 9mm once every month.
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    Re: I don't know how they would but.......

    Quote Originally Posted by azwreath
    Quote Originally Posted by ELE


    People will probably start making their own ammno if the shortage ensues




    So far we've been lucky........the gun shop we've been dealing with for years hasn't experienced shortages of anything.

    And the shooting clubs our sons belong to, which offer ammo for sale at a discount, aren't experiencing any problems with supply either.

    Just in case though, my husband has taken care of getting all of his reloading gear in order. As he said, he'd rather have it and never need it, then need it someday and not have it.
    AZ, I would like to know what kind of reloading equipment your husband recommends. I am in the same boat.
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    Ammo rationing at Wal-Mart as panic buying sweeps US

    'Used to be gold was precious. Now it's lead.'

    By Lewis Page
    24th September 2009 15:42 GMT

    The USA is suffering the most severe ammunition famine in living memory. Gun fanciers, fearing a Democrat crackdown on every American's right to pack heat, are clearing shelves at ammo shops and hoarding cartridges.

    AP reports that the Remington Arms Company's factory in North Carolina is now working around the clock trying to supply insatiable demand for rifle, pistol and shotgun cartridges.

    "We've had to add a fourth shift and go 24-7," Remington spokesman Al Russo told the news wire. "It's a phenomenon that I have not seen before in my 30 years in the business."

    The shortages are so bad that retail globocorp Wal-Mart has been forced to introduce rationing at the ammo counter in many of its stores. Depending on calibre, customers may be limited to purchases of just 50 rounds at a time. Apparently, classic .45 ACP pistol ammunition is especially scarce - a fairly good indication that it is in fact conservative Middle America rather than, say, inner-city criminals buying up all the ammo*.

    According to the National Rifle Association, America's pro-guns lobby, the people of the USA normally buy about 7 billion cartridges a year (an average of 23 rounds per head). The past year has seen that figure jump to 9 billion. The FBI reports a 25 per cent climb in background checks made prior to gun sales.

    The ammo rush has been dubbed the "Obama effect" by gun-industry people, but in fact there is no sign at present of any particularly aggressive move towards stricter federal gun laws.

    Police forces across the States reportedly suffered from some ammo shortages earlier in the year, but this was in large part unrelated to the surge in civilian demand. Rather, heavy use by the US military overseas made it hard to obtain ammunition such as 5.56mm assault-rifle/intermediate-power cartridges, commonly used by plods and troops but much less so by civilian gun owners.

    Meanwhile the ongoing shortages have seen ammo prices soar.

    "Used to be gold, but now lead is the most expensive metal," one gun enthusiast told AP. "And worth every penny." ®
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    *Most kinds of .45 have unexceptional muzzle energy and are big and fat, giving fairly poor performance even against light, flexible body armour. It was the standard US military pistol round for a long time and many diehards still swear by it, but people who carry guns for a living - cops, soldiers, criminals - are mostly using other calibres these days. (Some spec-ops troops still use .45, as the bullet is subsonic and thus can be effectively silenced.)

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    Re: I don't know how they would but.......

    Quote Originally Posted by ELE
    People will probably start making their own ammno if the shortage ensues.
    Ele, trust me, they will also ensure a shortage of the brass casings, etc. for loading ones own ammo if they enact laws on ammunition.
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