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    New college program brings Saudis to U.S.

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    New college program brings Saudis to U.S.
    By Garance Burke
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    September 10, 2006

    MANHATTAN, Kan. -- Thousands of students from Saudi Arabia are enrolling on college campuses across the United States this semester under a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah.
    The program will quintuple the number of Saudi students and scholars in the United States by the academic year's end. And big, public universities from Florida to Oregon are in a fierce competition for their tuition dollars.
    The kingdom's royal family -- which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students -- says the program will help stem unrest at home by schooling the country's brightest in the American tradition. The State Department sees the exchange as a way to build ties with future Saudi leaders and young scholars at a time of unsteady relations with the Muslim world.
    But some officials say efforts to fast-track educational diplomacy with Saudi Arabia could use additional scrutiny. Clark Kent Ervin, a former inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), said the U.S. government has yet to ensure proper safeguards are in place to do effective background checks on all applicants.
    Administrators at Kansas State University, an agricultural school surrounded by miles of prairie grass, say the scholarships are a bonanza for public education.
    "The Saudi scholarship program has definitely heightened our interest in that part of the world," said Kenneth Holland, associate provost for international programs. "Not only are the students fully funded, but they're also paying out-of-state tuition."
    Kansas State administrators say common misperceptions about the oil-rich nation make it crucial to create a tolerant environment for Arab and Muslim students, who have been singled out for scrutiny since the September 11 attacks.
    Before then, Saudi visa applicants were allowed to bypass the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh by submitting their applications to preapproved travel agencies, which forwarded them onto the consulate for approval or rejection. Three of the 15 Saudi September 11 hijackers used that program, dubbed "Visa Express," to enter the United States.

    "Since then, everything has changed," Saudi Embassy spokesman Nail Al-Jubeir said. "There are long lines to wait for a visa. Once they get in to a university here, they are checked and rechecked."
    In 2002, Congress mandated that the DHS create the "Visa Security Officer" program in consular offices in Saudi Arabia.
    That would bump up security by allowing counterterrorism officials to check visa applications against lists of known or suspected terrorists, Mr. Ervin said.
    That same year, Congress also instituted the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System, or SEVIS, which monitors all foreign students' activities -- including where they live, whether they go to class and whether they finish their studies.
    All foreign students are tracked on that program, which Mr. Holland said made him feel "very comfortable."
    Kansas State boosted efforts to court Saudi officials in the past year, flying administrators and department heads to the Saudi Embassy in Washington. It's paid off: Last month about 150 Saudi students started classes there, each funded to the tune of about $31,000.
    Mr. Al-Jubeir said 90 percent of the Saudi students the State Department has registered for the fall semester in the United States also will get such scholarships.
    "This is a critically important bilateral relationship," said Tom Farrell, a deputy assistant secretary for academic programs at the State Department. "It's an opportunity to increase understanding of Saudi Arabia for the United States and of the United States for Saudi Arabia."
    As Kansas State students enjoy a string of home football games this month, they also are preparing for the campus' first celebration of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.
    "We really want to make this special. We're going to truck in halal food from Kansas City," Mr. Holland said. "The Saudi government is trying to place the students in a variety of institutions across the country, but where you get the competitive advantage is how you treat the students when they get here."
    Marwan Al-Kadi, who was active in the Muslim student association while he studied industrial engineering at Kansas State, said efforts to raise awareness about religious diversity have helped the new influx of students feel comfortable.
    "Sometimes people ask me if I ride a camel to campus. They don't even realize how many cities we have in Saudi Arabia," Mr. Al-Kadi said. "I want to use the education to go back and work for my father's company."
    Allan Goodman, president and chief executive officer of the Institute of International Education in New York, said the new bilateral agreement is a "tremendously positive" step toward person-to-person diplomacy.
    "These 15,000 students will really jump-start education, and that will be a great addition to the kingdom," Mr. Goodman said. "At its base, it's about mutual understanding."
    And this program, is in addition to our open borders. Do I believe ALL Saudis are terrorists? Of course not! But it only takes a few!
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    And some people actually think we are fighting a war AGAINST terrorists?

    But, hey, the President said he wanted to bring more of them here and 'educate them and teach them to love us'.
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    Here's the one that bugs me:

    The kingdom's royal family -- which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students -- says the program will help stem unrest at home by schooling the country's brightest in the American tradition.
    We are enlisted to help diffuse internal political tensions in a non-democratically run middle eastern country by allowing its students to attend our [public] universities...?

    How about the quiet, but relenting dissention of our own poor/poorer students that are equally deserving of a public college education? At least they pay taxes which helped build and maintain those same universities.

    Those Saudis better be charged 'out of state' tuition.
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    They are charged out of state tuition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    And some people actually think we are fighting a war AGAINST terrorists?
    Yup.

    Wide open borders, amnesty for all, and import thousands from the country that raised Bin Ladin and provided most of the 9/11 hijackers.

    Meanwhile, we're told that we're fighting a war against "Islamic Fascism" that's on the same scale as WWII.

    How can anybody believe this crap anymore?
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    I have heard that colleges fight for foreign students because they do cough up big dollars to attend.

    No matter how much they spend, however, Americans are subsidizing this with our tax dollars.

    I'm sorry - send them home. We have enough potential problems here.
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    These 15,000 students will really jump-start education
    That's 15,000 American and LEGAL immigrant students who will find their places taken, so that they cannot get the education all of us and our parents and grandparents have WORKED toward and wanted for them.
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    America is truly for sale.
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