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    Obamacare’s secret surveillance



    The O Force wants government snooping on you

    Obamacare’s secret surveillance

    Saturday, April 3, 2010
    By THE WASHINGTON TIMES

    Blog sites have been buzzing about the National Medical Device Registry, a new office in the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that was created in the Obamacare reconciliation package. Concern centers on the registry's authority to conduct "postmarket device surveillance activities on implantable medical devices," including those that feature radio-frequency identification. The word "surveillance" conjures ominous images of government tracking and reporting. Some have suggested the law lays the groundwork for compulsory microchip implantation so the state can keep tabs on everyone - for their own good, naturally.

    But there is no compulsory microchipping in the new law, and "postmarket surveillance" is a term of art in the medical community that in this case refers to monitoring devices to make sure they do what they are supposed to do, and do not pose a health risk. The FDA has been involved in this for more than a decade. The innovation in the new law is to federalize and centralize what used to be a public-private partnership.

    No doubt, privacy concerns are justified. The law is vague on what types of data may be collected and how, so while people may not be required to have radio-chip implants, those who get them for medical reasons may fall under the authority of the registry, whether they want to or not.

    The Obama administration has gone on the record in favor of using innovative means to follow people's movements. In February, the Justice Department argued before the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that government agents should be permitted to track citizens by triangulating the locations of their cell phones. The Obama administration argued this can be done without the need for warrants because Americans have "no reasonable expectation of privacy" when it comes to their personal communications devices.

    If the O Force believes it's OK for the government to track citizens by their cell-phone signals, it's not a great leap to believe the same rule would apply to an implanted radio chip. This concern fits within a general disquiet over the Obama administration's incessant drive to expand government power over Americans' private lives.

    The health care law's provision mandating the purchase of health insurance, for example, is an unprecedented and unconstitutional claim of power under the Commerce Clause, which uses the IRS as its enforcement mechanism. A Congress that believes it can wield this type of power will determine that the government should mandate the type of electronic chips currently used to keep track of pets, livestock and convicts. The government already seems to believe that citizens can be divided among these three categories anyway.

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    A few years ago, I read that the FBI was able to ping cellphones, even if they were turned off. Then there are the blackboxes in rental cars that know where you have been.
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    There's an outfit i think referred to me by wnd that shows you how to "legally drop out by using foreign web servers (in Chekslovakia?) or something like that. anyway the article went on to explain that a clue to whether your phone is "being looked into" is that it turns on by itself, when you have it shut off. mine started doing that 3 days later and i was scared to the bone. but then i realized that if I was THAT important to THEM i could feed them false information; incorrect address's to TPP get togethers, and such.

    I had a lot of fun with that until i went back on my meds.

    But in all seriousness; when i went to see my friend at Verizon, he stared at me, and then said he'd never, ever heard of that ever happening.

    So, i changed the battery, downloaded some fresh software and felt ok....until it started shutting off by itself.

    p.s. i'm not making this up. well, i made up the part about my meds.

    a fellow patriot

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    I make it easy for them as I rarely turn it off. But I can just imagine the NSA or FBI screaming: "Oh no! vortex is at the grocery store again!" Yeah, exciting national security threat I pose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    I make it easy for them as I rarely turn it off. But I can just imagine the NSA or FBI screaming: "Oh no! vortex is at the grocery store again!" Yeah, exciting national security threat I pose!
    YOU,... just made me laugh out loud......grocery store, yes, it's wayneman, grab him. no telling what he's up to. He's been posting on that radical unabomber TPP site again. we've got a couple of minutes before we have to start looking for all those Somalian radical fundamentalists that snuck in when we weren't looking. make it quick boys. we may not get another chance. he looks like he's heading for Starbuck's.

    In "their" defense, i did send McAmnesty a fax regarding immigration saying something like, "John, what the blank we're you thinking?

    Another beautiful day in America!

    thanks for sharing that....

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