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    Back to the Stone Age; Chickens Invade Lansing

    Saturday, July 17, 2010

    Ron Paul Silver Ounces Accepted at Michigan Gas Station; Chiropractor Accepts Gold, Silver, Apple Pie; Back to the Stone Age; Chickens Invade Lansing

    Here's four interesting ways businesses, private citizens, and counties are coping with the economic depression. The first is the most important one. Let's hope it catches on.

    Gold, Silver, Copper, Freely Accepted as Money

    Connect Mid-Michigan reports Competing currency being accepted across Mid-Michigan. http://www.connectmidmichigan.com/news/ ... ?id=481793

    New types of money are popping up across Mid-Michigan and supporters say, it's not counterfeit, but rather a competing currency. Right now, you can buy a meal or visit a chiropractor without using actual U.S. legal tender.

    They sound like real money and look like real money. But you can't take them to the bank because they're not made at a government mint. They're made at private mints.

    "I sell three or four every single day and then I get one or two back a week," said Dave Gillie, owner of Gillies Coney Island Restaurant in Genesee Township.

    Gillie also accepts silver, gold, copper and other precious metals to pay for food. He says, if he wanted to, he could accept marbles. He's absolutely right.

    The U.S. Treasury Department says the Coinage Act of 1965 says "private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash, unless there is a state law which says otherwise."

    That allows gas stations to say they don't accept 50- or $100 bills after a certain time of day in hopes of not getting robbed.

    A chiropractic office in Lapeer County's Deerfield Township allows creativity when it comes to payment. "This establishment accepts any form of silver, gold, chicken, apple pie, if someone works it out with me," said Jeff Kotchounian of Deerfield Chiropractic. "I've taken many things."

    Ron Paul Silver Ounces Accepted at Local Gas Station

    I want to highlight one important sentence from the article.

    Jeff Kotchounian says he's used this Ron Paul half troy ounce of silver to get $25 worth of gas from a local station.

    New Types of Money?

    The article calls this "new types of money". The phrase is incorrect. Historically, gold, silver, copper (but primarily gold) have always been money. Indeed, money is nothing more than a commodity used as a medium of exchange.

    For a detailed discussion of money as a commodity as well as a discussion as to the proper amount of money, please see What is Money and How Does One Measure It?.

    Furthermore, I would like to point out that money is what a free market would accept as money. In this regard, if a free market accepts gold as money (and the article shows that is happening), then gold is money, and no government decree can change that fact.

    For further discussion of that point, please see Misconceptions about Gold

    If the trend in Mid-Michigan escalates, expect government to step in and outlaw gold and silver transactions. However, that will not stop gold from being money. The key point being: money is what a free market decides it to be.

    Those vendors in Michigan are operating (for now) as a free market. Government decree is decidedly not a free market.

    Back to the Stone Age

    In order to cope with rising costs of repaving roads, counties are tearing them up, converting them back to chip-and-seal sometimes known as "poor man's pavement", or even letting them deteriorate to gravel.

    Please consider Roads to Ruin: Towns Rip Up the Pavement http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 37746.html

    A hulking yellow machine inched along Old Highway 10 here recently in a summer scene that seemed as normal as the nearby corn swaying in the breeze. But instead of laying a blanket of steaming blacktop, the machine was grinding the asphalt road into bits.

    "When [counties] had lots of money, they paved a lot of the roads and tried to make life easier for the people who lived out here," said Stutsman County Highway Superintendant Mike Zimmerman, sifting the dusty black rubble through his fingers. "Now, it's catching up to them."

    Outside this speck of a town, pop. 78, a 10-mile stretch of road had deteriorated to the point that residents reported seeing ducks floating in potholes, Mr. Zimmerman said. As the road wore out, the cost of repaving became too great. Last year, the county spent $400,000 on an RM300 Caterpillar rotary mixer to grind the road up, making it look more like the old homesteader trail it once was.

    The moves have angered some residents because of the choking dust and windshield-cracking stones that gravel roads can kick up, not to mention the jarring "washboard" effect of driving on rutted gravel.

    But higher taxes for road maintenance are equally unpopular. In June, Stutsman County residents rejected a measure that would have generated more money for roads by increasing property and sales taxes.

    "I'd rather my kids drive on a gravel road than stick them with a big tax bill," said Bob Baumann, as he sipped a bottle of Coors Light at the Sportsman's Bar Café and Gas in Spiritwood.

    Rebuilding an asphalt road today is particularly expensive because the price of asphalt cement, a petroleum-based material mixed with rocks to make asphalt, has more than doubled over the past 10 years. Gravel becomes a cheaper option once an asphalt road has been neglected for so long that major rehabilitation is necessary.

    "A lot of these roads have just deteriorated to the point that they have no other choice than to turn them back to gravel," says Larry Galehouse, director of the National Center for Pavement Preservation at Michigan State University. Still, "we're leaving an awful legacy for future generations."

    Unpaved Road List

    Old Highway 10 in North Dakota.

    In Michigan, at least 38 of the 83 counties have converted some asphalt roads to gravel in recent years.

    Last year, South Dakota turned at least 100 miles of asphalt road surfaces to gravel.

    Counties in Alabama and Pennsylvania have begun downgrading asphalt roads to cheaper chip-and-seal road, also known as "poor man's pavement."

    Some counties in Ohio are simply letting roads erode to gravel.

    "City-Fresh" Eggs and a Chicken in Every Pot

    Tired of rising prices of eggs, or simply want "city-fresh" eggs that are organic and taste better?

    Numerous cities across the country are letting residents raise chickens. Most of the ordinances outlaw slaughtering chickens, but will any cities enforce that? I doubt it.

    Please consider Chickens set to invade Lansing http://lansingonlinenews.com/food/chick ... e-lansing/

    I remember distinctly one Easter season a dozen or so chickens made their way into my grandparents’ house. The chickens arrived by U.S Mail in a small box with little holes cut into it. My cousin Jackie and I played incessantly with the little yellow fuzz balls, and amazingly none of them died from over handling. Since it was still too cold for the chicks to be outside, they were diverted to a temporary home on a stair landing which led to the basement. My pinkeye, which kept me from kindergarten the day we did finger painting, was blamed on the critters. My art career never took off, but I still love fresh eggs and chicken legs.

    That’s why I am looking forward to the chicken invasion in Lansing. Many cities across Michigan have changed city ordinances to allow the raising of hens in backyards. ...

    There you have it, four distinctly different ways to cope with the depression: barter, unpaving roads, raising your own chickens, and most importantly - a return to real money at a number of Mid-Michigan businesses.

    Mike "Mish" Shedlock

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot. ... ed-at.html
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    Re: Back to the Stone Age; Chickens Invade Lansing


    The moves have angered some residents because of the choking dust and windshield-cracking stones that gravel roads can kick up, not to mention the jarring "washboard" effect of driving on rutted gravel.
    Drive fast on washboard roads. I do that on gravel roads in the desert, and it can be smoother than on some of our "freeways".
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    Sounds as though our infrastructure is moving backwards. But I do agree with the barter system when making purchases. But as it sayd,you need to know the value of your trade.
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    The ridiculous over growth of city's and over population of people living and working for the day that they will have enough and "be happy" has to peak. When that happens "retrograde" or down trend is inevitable.

    With the collapse of the monetary system people will seek other ways to exist. Down sizing and barter. That is why there were no huge Indian tribes. Huge populations are not sustainable. The only way to support huge populations is by minimalist or "third world" existence. Living on the edge of starvation. As our government continues to unhinge the free enterprise system inviting the third world to over populate and destroy the American dream...the world will continue to slide into a depression obscurity that the elite will no longer see or care about.

    The erosion of roads may be a good thing. It will force communities to self sustain. We are done as a Federated Nation anyway and the States becoming sovereign running themselves within their boarders will be a good thing for America. It will help to contain our wealth within our borders and make us become more dependent on America's people and infrastructure and less dependent on the world to sustain our enormous energy addictions.

    The "UNIDED STATES" was the principal dream anyway. This Federated Nation is a busted experiment.

    It will be interesting to see how America reshapes itself. The challenge will be if there are enough people left that are interested enough to help make it happen.

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