Thread: Obama Administration obstructing justice in healthcare suit!

The facts are as follows.

Our Constitution reads:

SECTION 1:


The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.


SECTION 2

[b][i]“In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which [u]a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.â€

Thanks johnwk. Once again you have brought up an issue which our medias refuse to pick up on and shine light upon.

One question that comes to mind, is, why does the state file suit at the lower courts, why not straight to the Supreme Court? Does the Justice Dept. decide where the case will be heard? Perhaps more straight to the point, WHO has jurisdiction or authority to determine the routing of the case in question? Can the state demand due course to justice? How much influence or pressure could be brought to light if the media were to bring this travesty into the light? Where the heck are the lawyers in this country screaming bloody murder?

Sorry, that might have been more than one question.

Originally Posted by roundabout

One question that comes to mind, is, why does the state file suit at the lower courts, why not straight to the Supreme Court?

I cant answer that question with any certainty. I could say they are doing it for nefarious reasons, that they are acting in concert with the Obama Administration and delaying the Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of Obamacare so the people become dependent upon those provisions of Obamace care which have already taken effect before the case reaches the Supreme Court, which in turn gives the Supreme Court the excuse that overturning Obamacare would cause undue hardship to too many people who are benefiting from Obamacare, and, overturning it would also create devastating consequences throughout the economy. When Obamacare was first passed and various States decided to challenge it, I immediately thought something unexplainable was taking place. The states did not file for an injunction with their challenge to put Obamacare on hold. And thus, various parts of Obamacare were put into operation, and this is in addition to the question of why the States did not file in the Supreme Court which, by our Constitution, is the only Court vested with “original jurisdictionâ€

Also....the Arizona case should have gone DIRECTLY to the Supreme Court....

Thank You Johnwk for your response and all of your efforts. I am trying to take advantage of your insights. From the constitutional perspectives I find interest in studying law. From case studies alone or the other manners used by lawyers I find only disgust and feel betrayed.

I gave some thought to my own question and came up with asking or thinking in the manner perhaps most fitting given your original post and what little knowledge I might muster.

It seems to me that the respective state's AG's should have filed suit at the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court would have the obligation and duty to either hear the case or kick it down to a lower court.

I also agree with your assessment that the state Ag's that file in the lower courts are acting in a nefarious manner. JMO, as I cannot think of any other reasons to follow the path taken. Combine that with my healthy measure of distrust towards politicians and government and the influences of corporate interests and I think of scaffolds and hemp rope.

Originally Posted by roundabout

It seems to me that the respective state's AG's should have filed suit at the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court would have the obligation and duty to either hear the case or kick it down to a lower court.

I also agree with your assessment that the state Ag's that file in the lower courts are acting in a nefarious manner. JMO, as I cannot think of any other reasons to follow the path taken.

roundabout,


I wish I knew exactly what is in the minds of the AG’s. It could be nothing more than they have been effectively brainwashed in law school. If your state is one of those fighting the case, you may want to copy the documentation I provided above about original jurisdiction and send your State’s AG a letter, asking why the State did not originally file in the Supreme Court, and why the State does not now file in the Supreme Court in view of the Obama Administration working to obstruct justice by delaying justice which can only be finalized in the Supreme Court.

The important question to be addressed is, district courts created by Congress are “inferiorâ€

Thanks johnwk. I do intend to use this information at my state level. Was not thinking along the lines of the AG but will include him as well. I have been trying to cultivate a relationship with the locals. Started out a bit strained as I might be a bit radical for the taste of some of those that have been used to the peace and harmony, or at least the status quo at the state level. I asked if it was possible to remove a sitting U.S. Congressman for voting yes for this unconstitutional health care debacle, Wonder Boycare, and I could almost visualize this aide falling out of his chair. Oh well, I am sure the floor was carpeted.

Was sure hoping that perhaps some others here could comment on this situation if by chance anyone has heard anything about the routing of the suits in the various states?

Any thoughts on why the delay(?) tactics with the route taken to the lower courts as opposed to straight to the SC?

grandmasmad wrote,

Also....the Arizona case should have gone DIRECTLY to the Supreme Court....

Agreed. Interesting that you brought up that case and; as concerning the medias, Mike Church argued that that case should have gone straight to the SC as well. I like giving him credit as he deserves it. He is not affraid to tread where others have been warned to avoid.

When it comes to the medias and the talking heads, whatever there persuasion, it takes little effort to blast them with negligence for not doing their job. This issue right here is a good point. Who in the media world has analyzed this case and the routing of the suits? Who has the gumption to step outside the box and tackle the real issues in a timely manner?

A media pundit can beat up on George Soros all they want. Make a complete idiot or monster of the guy, but, what about the issues that are, or, are not moving along? While Soros may make for a great boogie man, what is happening elsewhere, the real meat and potatoes?

When the monies and enticements come pouring in at the state levels, it will be hard to fight back.

Perhaps I am too cynical of politicians?

Originally Posted by grandmasmad

Also....the Arizona case should have gone DIRECTLY to the Supreme Court....

You are absolutely correct! And so, the question is, why is Arizona's AG not answering Eric Holder’s COMPLAINT against Arizona’s law S.B. 1070 with a [i]“plea in abatement for want of jurisdictionâ€